Quote from: smooth on November 23, 2015, 10:03:35 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on November 23, 2015, 09:29:41 PM

It would be great if you could stop pretending Bitcoin's Layer 1 was created (and/or is able) to replace commercial banking, cash, plastic, and Starbucks gift cards while remaining diverse/diffuse/defensible/resilient. Please do the engineering.

It's hard to argue that it wasn't created for that when satoshi wrote about things like how to do zeroconf for vending machines:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423.msg3819#msg3819

Or micropayments becoming practical over time as storage and bandwidth costs fall:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287.msg7687#msg7687

In the subsequent years, some may have realized that isn't the best way to approach things but learning is different from revisionism.

Yes, I was just making the point that many inventors/innovators have no idea what the world will do with their better mousetraps.

Satoshi said we may have larger blocks eventually.

The trade-offs in terms of decentralization/survivability for moving ~all full nodes to data centers may be acceptable eventually.

That eventuality is not in the near or medium term future; there is zero propensity for it at present. It only comes after Bitcoin has ensured everyone has benefited "from sane and non-inflationary financial institutions whose sanity and honesty are ensured by the holy blockchain."

Once we slay/neuter the fiat dragon and usher in an era of Cryptopia, I have no problem with most BTC nodes being run in data centers and using 8GB blocks.

Until then, any proposal which endangers Bitcoin's engineering requirement to be above the (crony capitalist) law is a non-starter and absolutely out of the question (absent some genuine emergency).

Sacrificing humanity's last, best hope to (peacefully) overthrow the Fed, BIS, and LBMA for the sake of vending machings is entirely against the social contract. I didn't sign up just to ensure nobody ever has to wait for their tiny bag of Cool Ranch^® Doritos^®. Cheesy