Quote from: BADecker on November 25, 2015, 03:32:37 PM

Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on November 25, 2015, 11:46:24 AM

Quote from: BADecker on November 24, 2015, 01:40:43 PM

Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on November 24, 2015, 01:04:43 PM

Now I am sure that you never read the whole Bible and also you don't know anything about Yoga...

Because if you do, you will know that the Bible is one of the biggest books in the world where you can find anything you need like books of Law, History, Wisdom, Prophets, History of the Christ, Acts of Apostles and The Revelation.

Now, I must remind you a few things that you forgot in our discussion. The evidences from where the Bible originated are found in ancient Mesopotamia, where actually the whole things have happened. And according to new research that period is now dating for 10 to 14.000 years b.c.e. Christ was born in the New Era and Yoga was show for the first time in 1000 years before Christ. The founder of Yoga is Patanjali!

So tell me know, how can YOGA be much older then the Bible when the facts and the stories are talking about period long before there was a life on EARTH!?

Another thing that is mentioned in Yoga and Christ do the same thing is: I am the LIGHT! So, actually Christ before came to Earth has visited the Vedas and ask them about what is the LIGHT!?

Mate, instead of giving me no sense things, why don't try to think in terms of energy and try to understand what Christ and the Apostles where talking about it?.. I hope now that you realize in what I believe...

And one more thing. You mention the word religion, so please give me your definition about what is religion and what is spirituality?

Hi! We are having an interesting discussion here. I wonder what it is all about. I agree with much of what you say. Neither of us knows everything. So, what are we really discussing?

I am saying that God is His own "person," just like we are our own person... only more so.

I am I. I think my thoughts. I feel the things that I feel. Nobody else is me. Nobody else feels what I feel. Some people may empathize with me if they see my condition. A few sensitive people may feel my vibes even though they don't know me. But they are not me. I am me.

The same goes for you. The same goes for God, except that He may be more Himself than we are we, and, He knows all about everything. He does more than empathize with us, though we don't realize it very easily.

Is this what we are discussing? Are you saying that God is simply unfeeling energy? What are we really talking about here?

Just like is written in the first book of Moses, He create us in His image, so we actually look like Him, because God is a living being!

I know that we are talking about something we both believe, but what I am trying to tell you is that the Bible and Yoga are very connected. The Bible is a way of life i.e. you learn how to become a spiritual person. The Bible is not a religion! Just like Yoga is not a part from any other religion...

Yoga will teach you how to understand all miracles that Christ show to the people. Everything that He did it is by creating and projected energy. But, if you want to be able to that, you must have clear and focused thoughts. Yoga will help you to gather you thoughts and if you are able to do that I am sure that you can pray without problem.

Pray and meditation has enormous power. But, you can't have honest pray if you didn't meditate before. Mate, everything that I am telling you is from my personal research and experience. I didn't go to church to ask the pope or to call some monk from a buddhist temple!

I am happy that you have researched things and found out all kinds of info. I am not saying anything against that.

Fluffer (Buffer Overflow), on the other hand, is simply talking in ways that don't have a lot of depth... or at least so it seems. And 1aguar has so much depth that he forgets the connection.

I agree that there are books and practices that have understanding that is not in the Bible. The purpose of the Bible and the miracles recorded therein are not mainly for doing miracles. Sure, miracles are nice, and miracles can make life better at times, and sometimes miracles are even fun. But that isn't the major point of the Bible.

The major point of the Bible is found here, John 20:30,31:

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Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Without the Bible, all the Yoga writings, and religious writings of every other kind, would leave us guessing about our salvation. You can see it from the fact that 1aguar selects the idea of the two of us picking on each other, rather than answering the point of us Christian gods using our god-power to make the God of the Bible to be the Super-God. 1aguar focuses on the less important, rather on that of greater importance.

It is the same with Yoga. Without the Bible, Yoga would focus on the miracles rather than on clear-cut salvation. Even with the Bible, Yoga wants to distract us from the important thing, salvation and eternal life through Jesus.

We were created in the image of God. What is the image of God like? If you want to believe God meant physical image, here it is, very clearly. Talking about Jesus, Saint Paul shows us in Colossians 1:15-20...

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15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.

17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

In other words, it was probably Jesus walking in the Garden of Eden in the cool of the day, after Adam and Eve sinned. And The Angel of The Lord written about throughout the Old Testament is probably Jesus before He came to earth in His humiliation.

Knowing this, what are you really doing when you keep on talking about these things? I am not disagreeing with you. The Bible simply has a different major purpose than Yoga does.

I completely agree with the every verse that you mention from the Bible!

I am reading this book for almost one year and every day I have discover something new. Sometimes can be something that I have experienced with the people and sometimes can be something that I have discover behind some verse.

Do you know what is the real definition of Yoga? Do you know that the actual meaning of Yoga is to unite with God? Do you know that most of the parabolas that Christ used them in the New Testament are mention as an example in Yoga?

1.The definition of Yoga is: You and me, we are one - In the Bible Christ say to others: Look in the others, you will find ME! What was He really want to teach us is that we are interconnected!
2. The old sacred texts from Vedas was preached by Patanjali. He is the first person who teach his people that they should unite with God.
3. If you take the 10 Commandments + 2 of Christ and the 7 chakras(in the body) + 5(out side from the body) you will see that the meaning is completely same. So we have actually 12 Commandments and 12 Chakras.

I am saying that you should try to give a chance to Yoga if you really want to understand the meaning of the parabolas and the verse that are mention by Christ and the Apostles. Wink