Quote from: Junko on November 27, 2015, 06:24:46 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 27, 2015, 04:19:40 AM

But it seems that you are implying that I am preventing this from happening.

Not sure how you inferred that, but I can assure you that I was not at all implying that you are preventing anything from happening. And for that matter, nor was I implying that Betcoin or anyone else was preventing anything from happening neither. The only thing I meant or implied by what you quoted me on was only exactly what I wrote. I can bullshit a lot here and in other parts of the forum as well as outside it. But when it comes to serious topics I try to choose my words carefully.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 27, 2015, 04:19:40 AM

By making posts endorsing them or thanking them for their services tells Betcoin that you think what they're doing is OK. It also tells other similar businesses (which you may use already or in the future) that behaving like they have is OK.

That's your viewpoint and opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Who am I or anyone else to tell you what you are supposed to think. I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you though. And I can only speak for myself, but when I make posts endorsing the merits and services Betcoin offers, I am literally doing just and only that - endorsing the merits and services of Betcoin and nothing more. And I stand by all the posts I've made doing so. Other people may have had different experiences with Betcoin then me obviously, but I can only go with my own personal ones.

How Betcoin takes that or how you or anyone else takes it including other businesses, I have no control over. I'm not going to include a disclaimer with every endorsement I make itemizing the things I am not endorsing. Yes, I get what you are saying, but I just don't see it that way from my standpoint. If hypothetically, I wanted to convey that I endorsed any kind of mishandling of issues that you've brought up, then I would just do so in plain terms. Like I said, I can only speak for myself.

And no need to try to infer or figure out any mysterious meanings in any of my posts. Just take them literally as is. Trust me. Wink

I respect everything you're saying and hope you continue to follow where things go from here and share your honest opinions. I suspect this may be only the beginning.

Quote from: dooglus on November 27, 2015, 08:44:24 PM

Quote from: ftwbtc1 on November 27, 2015, 07:29:34 PM

First time in awhile, I have come here and found this thread on the second page! The trolls aren't keeping up with their marketing efforts clearly.

This is the first time I've worried about betcoin being a scam.

One thing all scam site threads have in common is that negative criticism, no matter how valid, is rejected as "FUD" or "trolling".

Is that the best you can do? How about actually addressing the concerns people have raised rather than claiming that there is a "discussion" going on, while discounting the views of anyone who disagrees with you?

Meanwhile the dice continue to roll my way:

and I'm having no trouble at all withdrawing my winnings:

So if it is a scam, at least it is "paying" at the moment...

Please guys, if you're legit, step up your game and get on top of the customer support situation.

Theyve had a lot of success by discrediting and ignoring critics in the past. It's worked with me a couple times as well as well as plenty of others (including some who did deserve to be discredited and ignored). So it makes sense they think it will work again, I wonder how long before they realize it's not going to work this time.