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Quote from: dnaleor on November 29, 2015, 02:32:11 AM

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This guy is a #FAIL for grasping at glass straws and coming to events with home made stapled brochures he printed using his parents ink jet.... That's #FAILING right there. You keep hanging on to ur shit coin buddy... We'll see you in the spring and see how that's working out for you. Roll Eyes

You would think that Risto would be embarrassed that he is backing these clowns to run a negative DASH campaign.

Obviously not, Risto is that delusional these days that he thinks he is some behind the scene crypto godfather come crypto jesus.

Just epic failure dnaleor. How is the plan for the silent DASH protest at Miami going? You going so you can stand up and turn your back on Evan and the team?

Please provide proof of your claims in bold.

Thanks

Quote from: Macrochip on November 29, 2015, 07:56:26 AM

Quote from: farfiman on November 29, 2015, 07:46:00 AM

And his retort was "you obviously aren't invested in the coin...." funny

Wrong. That was a side note. His actual retort was the simple truth: That no one gives a flying fuck except the Flying Dutchmad himself and his few Moronero-driven friends with a pathetic agenda to push the non-competition Trollero.

"No one" meaning no one in the clan of Dash supporters that will eat up anything that Evan spouts as gospel.

Hardly "no one". If you notice there are quite a few people including Charlie Lee, Peter Todd, etc who have spoken out against Dash/Darkcoin/whatever

So technically Evan's retort made no sense and it was distracting from the issue that was asked at that Q&A.

The guy even said he owns 1 Dash. Even though Evan assumed he wasn't invested in Dash...

Cheesy

Quote from: Macrochip on November 29, 2015, 07:56:26 AM

Just because the "top 100" wallets have 18% of the total supply does not mean that other wallets or more of that 100 wallets are not owned by a few.

So because Evan moved his say 100,000 Dash (an example) into 100 wallets with each a 1000 so he would have 100 masternodes....doesn't make that any more decentralized in supply than if it was in ONE wallet.

Quote from: Wolf0 on November 29, 2015, 08:38:08 AM

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Quote from: farfiman on November 29, 2015, 07:46:00 AM

And his retort was "you obviously aren't invested in the coin...." funny

in other words.. "you are obviously not one of us"

what investment per se got to do with the points raised by the man?

You boys are seriously struggling. Has Risto cashed out of Monero or something?

Maybe he is backing Rubycoin now?

boys? i don't even know the guy..dnealor, if that's him..looks kind of a guy that got bullied during school days..peace dnaleor Cheesy

specially with the cap.

he have the guts to enter the wolf's den...i give him that

see this is the internet and crypto, i'm from the other side of the globe..i'm a ghost crypto and the internet created so i won't be there in your little circle jerk session..

sooo.. "what investment per se got to do with the points raised by the man?" anybody?

He did point out a lot of promises that never got fulfilled, but obviously most of the people here are more than a little biased about the subject - don't expect to win many people over.

Your point of view is spot on concerning Dash supporters. Thank you sir!

Quote from: toknormal on November 29, 2015, 10:15:52 AM

Quote from: Wolf0 on November 29, 2015, 10:11:20 AM

He said he was gonna do a lot of shit and DID apparently back down. Dunno if he had explanations for it, though.

He's a developer, not a politician.

It doesn't matter.

A man's word should mean something. Just because he is a developer doesn't make his word worth less.

I take offense to that because I am a software engineer by trade and take my word seriously as well as others'.

He is essentially a spokes person for Dash (doing talks conferences etc). So in essence he is also operating as a salesman. Politicians are also salesmen. It isn't so far fetched to put two and two together.

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Quote from: reaktion on November 29, 2015, 10:07:31 AM

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Welcome to my dream..ok..back to topic."what's investment per se got to do with points raised by dnaelor"?

Many people are invested in DASH, contrary to his 'points', and the few people who back his 'points' are invested in a competing coin.

I'm actually invested in BTC and Sia at the moment, and I still think it's valid. He said he was gonna do a lot of shit and DID apparently back down. Dunno if he had explanations for it, though.

He probably changed his mind.

Being critical of a coin/dev/community on a technical or ethical basis is fine, especially when it's done in a civilised manner. You would fall in that camp. When it's done ad nauseum, in an aggressive, militant manner, by a group of individuals who are invested in a competing coin - well, the motivation is obvious.

The thing is that he promises a lot and doesn't deliver.
How will Evolution turn out? Stealth development, no public testing, no peer review, nothing.

Will he "change his mind" about certain aspects as well?

The cool wallet features will probably stay. It's nice and shiny. But will he deliver on default instant mixing? And if so, when?
Will it work? Will is keep working when stress tested by millions of users? Is it safe to sue? No attack vectors on the anonymity side?

FYI: there are coins out there that already have default instant mixing that do have some "thumbs up" from reputable bitcoin/crypto people

I posted about this ^ pattern a few posts back.

I would speculate that the same will happen with previous developments.

After the hype of the topic/buzzword of the season dies down development focus will shift somewhere else and the previous buzz-word development topic will be pushed to the back burner (if ever gotten to).

Quote from: DrkLvr_ on November 29, 2015, 01:20:30 PM

Quote from: Macrochip on November 29, 2015, 07:56:26 AM

Wrong. That was a side note. His actual retort was the simple truth: That no one gives a flying fuck except the Flying Dutchmad himself and his few Moronero-driven friends with a pathetic agenda to push the non-competition Trollero.

The favorite Dashtard lie to tell themselves and others: "but... but....no one cares!"

Keep telling yourselves that.

BTW if you think "Evan wiped the floor" with anyone you're delusional. Watch the video again, Evan looks like a little weasel. He's completely embarrassed that he failed to hide the instamine and that people are now wise to his antics.

Eduffield and minotaur26 thought investors are so stupid that they could get aware with a 30%+ fraud instamine. Good luck with that

I guess the statement concerning Dash's short comings/shadiness:

"No one cares"

has been debunked.

Quote from: eduffield on November 29, 2015, 03:23:26 PM

Quote from: Wolf0 on November 29, 2015, 01:36:58 PM

* Master Nodes These nodes handle the mixing through random selection -

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They are responsible for being the authority of what goes into the joined transaction each session.

eduffield, 21 February 2014 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5282966#msg5282966

This is how the algorithm currently works. Users submit lists of inputs and outputs, the masternodes either accept them or deny them. If the inputs and outputs violate a privacy rule (they must be uniform, etc), then the user will be denied access to DarkSend. Selection of the nodes to use is also random... what's the issue?

Quote from: Wolf0 on November 29, 2015, 01:36:58 PM

* I2P:

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I'm implementing I2P into the masternodes. We're going to have our own private network just for DarkSend.

eduffield, 10 May 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6643662#msg6643662

We decided this wasn't a priority because we have built in Tor support.

Quote from: Wolf0 on November 29, 2015, 01:36:58 PM

* Ring signatures are going to be implemented in V2.

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I will begin development immediately after I opensource V1.

eduffield, 12 May 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6686819#msg6686819

This was during the exploration of Darksend and other technologies, I hadn't made up my mind about the direction of the project yet. By the way, this is currently where the evolution project is at, there are many parts of it that are up in the air and we're figuring out what will make the best implementation possible, then we're going with that. This is just how development works for really adventurous projects. Is anyone else creating multiple tier p2p networks capable of paying autonomous agents that provide service for the network?

Quote from: Wolf0 on November 29, 2015, 01:36:58 PM

*IP obfuscation 12 May 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6694377#msg6694377

To implement IP obfuscation it would push Evolution back about 2-3 months, then we would use it in v12 for about a year, then throw it out as soon as evolution came along, then I would have to redo the work again....What sense does that make?

Thanks Evan for this post.

It would appear that Evolution will be a long process to roll out. I think this was already mentioned.

But for me it sounds like Butterfly Labs and their delays (never ending).

Can anyone post or link me to the proposed time line of evolution and its roll out?

Thanks in advance.