Quote from: myrkul on November 01, 2012, 01:36:55 PM

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 01:25:12 PM

My point is, tax, the idea of it, is a good thing.

Tax is taking money by force. Even if tax money were only used to help people, rather than blow them up, it would still not be a "good thing." Charity is a good thing. Forced charity is not.

We wouldnt need to force it if greedy people like yourself werent getting so irate at losing a few pennies. Your rich, way richer than you think, there are near 7 billion people in the world, I bet your in the top 10%, why you getting so mad at people with less money than you taking some in the form of benefits?

Direct your rage at your politicians, bankers and conglomerates who are truly sucking up your money.

But I dont think we're ever going to agree here, you like shiny things too much.

Quote from: Lethn on November 01, 2012, 01:36:06 PM

lol sorry about that, I tend to go full on logic spam if I see a hint of an opinion that's mathematically wrong Tongue

This is why though I feel if there must be taxes then they should be very low and of course a flat tax so there aren't loopholes, that way the government can't sneak the money to stupid ideas without people noticing and focus on helping people, I actually don't believe in our conventional Democracies at all, I'm a much bigger fan of the Switzerland style direct democracy because then citizens can overrule laws politicians make, it's my view if we had direct democracy, then the bailouts and the war in Iraq may well have never happened because tons of people would vote against it.

No worries man im exactly the same!

Totally with you on everything you've said. Yet here we are with cunts like George Osborne and Davey C, not to mention little nicky. Its all too infuriating ha.