Quote from: myrkul on November 01, 2012, 02:52:30 PM

Quote from: Richy_T on November 01, 2012, 02:38:57 PM

Quote from: myrkul on November 01, 2012, 12:19:47 PM

And the case that I explained for private doctors is precisely the situation which exists for private schools. They are quite expensive,

Though often spend less per child than public schools.

You mean, something which operates in the free market has to keep costs low? Shocked

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 02:41:17 PM

Quote from: myrkul on November 01, 2012, 02:31:23 PM

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 02:27:24 PM

Whats wrong with sharing the wealth?

That it's being done by force. If I hold a gun to your head, and take your money to pay for my grandmother's surgery, does that make the robbery OK?

Charming way too put it, if it were to be like how you say, no, it would not make it ok.

However, it is not like that, so not a problem. Is it stealing? Sure, if you want to argue semantics you can conclude it is indeed stealing.

How is it not "like that"? Does the government not have guns? If you fail to pay taxes, do they not use them?

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 02:41:17 PM

So what? Since when is stealing such a big deal?(If you quote me the 10 holy commandments il cry) You want to steal from me to benefit society, sure. You want to steal from me for an 8 ball of coke, fuck you.

Wait, I thought you just said that stealing to help my grandmother would not be OK? So, which is it, you can steal if you want to help people, or you can't?

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 02:41:17 PM

If it is used correctly, in a way so that it can combat societies problems, sure, sign me up.

You know, it's funny. I never hear about international charities blowing up families in the desert. But organizations that get their funding by taking it from people against their will, those organizations do blow up people. You don't suppose that might be because those charities would lose funding if they did?

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 02:41:17 PM

Now of course its not like this, so yeah, I fucking hate paying tax's to fund bullshit, but that does not make tax, or in my ideal, what tax should be about, wrong. We just need to get it working properly.

Yeah, by taking the force out of the equation.

No, the government does not point a gun at my head if I don't pay taxes. I go to court, then I would go to jail. So it is not like how you are trying to describe it. You are sensationalising what happens to try and steer away from the main point here, which is:

You do not want to pay taxes because you are greedy.