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Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

How on earth do you manage all those quotes? Fair play.

Copy/paste. It's quite simple, really. You do know how to use this device that you're accessing this site with, right?

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Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

In my country, unless you are being an idiot, your not going to get beaten by the police when being taken away for tax avoidance, that just simply isn't going to happen unless you decide to get all aggro. Which isn't going to happen because I know why they're taking me away, tax avoidance, im breaking the law, I have been caught, I am going to jail, why add a beating into the equation?

So they've got you cowed before they even open the door. Who is less the slave, the one who bows and scrapes and says "yes, massah," or the one who must be whipped to achieve compliance?

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

As for keeping what you have, no problem. But is it the tax which is the problem? or your life style? Ever stop to think about the amount of shit you consume? personally? or as a house hold? Do you ever think where this stuff comes from? and ends up? Do you think this stuff just magically appears and comes from a never ending supply of stuff? Just food for thought, back on topic; if your taxes were not being wasted away but infact invested into your country, be it health care, welfare, better roads, state owned energy etc do you not think that could be of no possible benefit?Do you like seeing homeless people?

I'm quite aware of where my consumer goods come from. If money were not stolen from the people and used to destroy capital goods elsewhere, I imagine the economy would boom, for the simple fact that the money doesn't get wasted, and thus is re-invested in the local economy.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

I know, im talking totally theoretical here, which is what I have been saying all along, the current system is wrong for sure, but claiming that no tax is the answer is, in my opinion, wrong.

What's so wrong about suggesting that voluntarily paying for the things you want to happen to happen is better than having your money stolen from you to pay for things you would never agree to?

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

You then go on to talk about the USA being a charitable nation? You got to be fucking kidding me right? The western world goes and pillages and plunders the rest of the world, takes all the resources, makes huge amounts of money of it, gives a fucking minuscule fraction of it to 'charities' (who for the most part are in-effective money pits where the cash never seems to weigh as much by the time it reaches some poor kid in the 3rd world.) and you have the audacity to sit on the internet chirping about the USA being the most charitable nation on earth???

Have a browse: https://www.charitynavigator.org/

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

Now before you get all patriotic on me, I know its not just the US of A, I know the Euro's are just as bad and the Russians, but thats not the fucking point is it.

The charity point I think ive just explained where I stand there, you cool with world starvation I take it? I mean, these charities that all us charitable western folks have set up will save the world oh yea. Who needs taxes, the charities will feed the poor of course! Except as we can see, it doesnt work, does it?

I wonder why....

Quote from: Richy_T on November 01, 2012, 03:29:10 PM

Yeah, the people get together, raise a bunch of money, send the food and money to the country that has need and then the government there steals the food and money. Live-aid is a prime example.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

As for the robbery thing, which we have been over once, I told you were I stood, and il take the 8 ball part as a troll? or you really have a memory of a gold fish lol? I guess you thought robin hood was a baddie too?

I love how tax advocates keep pointing to Robin Hood as an example. Idiots. Robin Hood was taking the taxed money back from the government and returning it the people.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

Who owns me?

I own me, anyone who wants a piece can come and get it haha.

I thought self-ownership was "bullshit"?

Meow, il take your continued avoidance of my questions and bitchy tone as you dont have an answer me ya greedy git, this thread is eating up too much of my time, I think ive explained my point, we'll agree to disagree before this turns into petty insults shall we?

PS. The link for charity navigator indicates that almost all that I have said, has gone well over your head. Keep living in your little bubble.