Quote from: myrkul on November 01, 2012, 04:26:42 PM

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 04:18:58 PM

Meow, il take your continued avoidance of my questions and bitchy tone as you dont have an answer me ya greedy git, this thread is eating up too much of my time, I think ive explained my point, we'll agree to disagree before this turns into petty insults shall we?

PS. The actions which you ascribed to "The western world" are all done by their governments. The people are very charitable.

Last one I promise;

Your putting words some what in my mouth, this is what I was saying about what I have said going way over your head. Il try once more;

1. I do not in anyway, support any government system in the world today, as far I can see we're in the shit.
2. I do not in anyway believe the current state of democracy to be 'good'.
3. I do not in anyway believe the taxation system in any country (that I know of) to be fair or effective.
4. I do not in anyway believe that the money from taxes collected today are spent 'well'
5. The only point I am trying to make, is that tax itself is not the problem, the governments are.

Now I know your going to disagree with number 5, but rather than focusing in on that, read everything else I have said. I agree with a lot of what yourself and Richy are saying.

However, the part about greed I was talking about comes down to a theoretical world where the taxes are being used for good, your life would be totally different, think of the money given to bankers, the military industrial complex etc. Even a fraction of that money could provide a huge array of public services. In an example like this, I can only see the possible answer for not being in favour of it as greed.

Why would tax be a bad thing when it can so easily be used for the benefit of society? Again all theoretical as the world we live in today is far from what I describe above.

It would be great if everyone was charitable enough for there to be no need for taxes, but that just simply isn't going to happen. We cant even feed the world through charity, never mind providing infrastructure, health care or what ever else the people need.