Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

How on earth do you manage all those quotes? Fair play.

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Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

In my country, unless you are being an idiot, your not going to get beaten by the police when being taken away for tax avoidance, that just simply isn't going to happen unless you decide to get all aggro. Which isn't going to happen because I know why they're taking me away, tax avoidance, im breaking the law, I have been caught, I am going to jail, why add a beating into the equation?

Again you like to sensationalise to try and get your point across, a bit like fox news I might add.

I pay my taxes too. But it's all backed by threat of force. Just because the rapist doesn't actually have to stab you, doesn't make it not rape.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

As for keeping what you have, no problem. But is it the tax which is the problem? or your life style? Ever stop to think about the amount of shit you consume? personally? or as a house hold? Do you ever think where this stuff comes from? and ends up? Do you think this stuff just magically appears and comes from a never ending supply of stuff? Just food for thought, back on topic; if your taxes were not being wasted away but infact invested into your country, be it health care, welfare, better roads, state owned energy etc do you not think that could be of no possible benefit?Do you like seeing homeless people?

I have a modest life style. After 20 years out in the world, I'm just starting to get ahead and the hardships that taxes impose on the hardworking are very palpable to me. They put a real cramp on what a person can achieve and contribute to "society" quite apart from the whole force thing. They are taken from the productive and given in somewhat equal measures to the rich and connected and the poor and shiftless. A very small proportion ever actually makes it to the needy and deserving. A very small portion.

And the worst thing? When times are hard, I can make my car last another year, I can take vacation here instead of there. I can eat chicken and not steak but can I cut back on the taxes I pay on the money I earn? Can I hell.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

I know, im talking totally theoretical here, which is what I have been saying all along, the current system is wrong for sure, but claiming that no tax is the answer is, in my opinion, wrong.

And yet you give no justification other than "It's greedy to keep what you have" and "Because I say so".

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

You then go on to talk about the USA being a charitable nation? You got to be fucking kidding me right? The western world goes and pillages and plunders the rest of the world, takes all the resources, makes huge amounts of money of it, gives a fucking minuscule fraction of it to 'charities' (who for the most part are in-effective money pits where the cash never seems to weigh as much by the time it reaches some poor kid in the 3rd world.) and you have the audacity to sit on the internet chirping about the USA being the most charitable nation on earth???

Are we seeing maybe an inkling of cognitive dissonance here? That plundering army is funded by the taxes you feel are so essential. I believe myrkul was talking about private charity in any case. What the government dishes out to other countries does not truthfully qualify as charity.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

The charity point I think ive just explained where I stand there, you cool with world starvation I take it? I mean, these charities that all us charitable western folks have set up will save the world oh yea. Who needs taxes, the charities will feed the poor of course! Except as we can see, it doesnt work, does it?

It doesn't really work however it gets there, largely due to corrupt governments in the receiving countries. At least private charities actually have some semblance of interest in seeing the aid gets where it needs to go. Government aid just tends to be a bribe to rich and powerful rulers. Just look at the record.

Quote from: Jimmy Chang(y) on November 01, 2012, 03:44:39 PM

As for the robbery thing, which we have been over once, I told you were I stood, and il take the 8 ball part as a troll? or you really have a memory of a gold fish lol? I guess you thought robin hood was a baddie too?

Current theory is that the real Robin Hood was a thug who took from the rich and... took from the poor too and kept it for himself.