Quote from: BetMoose on November 30, 2015, 07:22:22 PM

The resolution will be 'No' if it never crosses $500 by EoY, which is different than cancelling the bet. The metrics the host has chosen are legitimate, and we can't nullify it because someone 'said they saw it'. Think about a court room where you have a murder victim with a suspect but no murder weapon. The suspect goes free unless proven guilty. The same thing applies here. We have no concrete evidence to resolve "Yes". Likewise, we can't just 'end his trial' without hearing all evidence. In this case, Bitcoin is below $500 (as evidenced right now). Therefore there will be an outcome here unless Bitpay shuts down.

I am sorry as you may be correct. But we cannot pick your side without seeing valid proof, or it will seem unfair from the other side (those 'who never saw it go above $500 - no way!')

Adam

I'm a lawyer and am well aware of how a court works. (Edit: For arguments sake, civil courts operate on a "balance of probabilities" standard, which in the absence of historical data would be the price on other exchanges. So I would win in court.)

So we're all straight here: because Bitpay refuses to give me historical data I lose by default.

I would be satisfied if you agree not to pay out the "no" side unless they can prove it didn't cross $500 as well by providing historical data. Otherwise, this simply isn't fair.

BitPay's price is based on internal factors that they are unwilling to share, hence why they won't show the historical data.

In retrospect, the creator picked a really dumb metric.

Further edit: thank you for explaining yourself! I do like your site and am hoping we can sort this out. I think I bet $7 on this... but its the principal!