Quote from: rizzlarolla on December 02, 2015, 06:49:45 PM

Quote from: tempus on December 02, 2015, 04:17:50 PM

Quote from: rizzlarolla on December 02, 2015, 01:18:32 PM

Quote from: LiQio on October 09, 2015, 07:08:11 PM

Now huey (the creator of the block explorer, a task the neucon regime is not able to accomplish) is encouraged to create a "faked" block explorer rich list and has to defend the reality.

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/neucoin-block-explorer/1806/18

So, wtf IS going on with these block explorers?

Huey said "the blockchain never lies"
Well, at least one of them is lying.

nokoin.io states 3.95bn nokoin exist.
http://www.neucoin.io/richlist

nokoin.org state 3.39bn nokoin exist.
http://explorer.neucoin.org/overview

I had expected to see at least ~3.7bn in existence at this point, using nokoin own formula.
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/how-will-neucoins-be-mined-after-release/163/28
However,with the super compounding effect for the controllers of nokoin, nokoin.io's figure of 3.95bn is plausible.
On the other hand, nokoin.org's 3.39bn figure is several hundred million nokoin below their own projections.

So, are they holding back on staking, or have they just messed up the process of staking, or did they mess up the original figures, or is their blockchain just plain wrong?
(I think the figures are good as the first months nokoin growth was in line with expectations, as reported on this thread. the nokoin growth therefore must have slowed after month one. I dont know how to go back in time, now, to "easily verify" how many nokoin existed after month one on "todays version of events" at nokoin.org explorer?)

Is the difference between the two because nokoin.org rewrite (their) history every month (on "distribution day") and nokoin.io doesn't obey?
After all, when nokoin team rewrite history, that then makes it "true".
Even when nokoin team are not rewriting, every tx is is based on the 51% attack. The controllers say it did or did not happen. NOBODY else gets a say. If you disagree, (when finding a block) you will be orphaned?

Also
Veegolds' transaction history on the two explorers deviates on distribution day, Oct 23rd, coincidence?
http://www.neucoin.io/address/NSx81GyspxWA5H8z7MHam9dezptCKBqzkC
I don't think Acorn would have deliberately robbed Veegold, but could a bug in the reorg/rewrite be to blame?

What is going on? Can anything about nokoin be trusted?
Probably not.... unless you FULLY trust the team. (mostly gone or hiding behind "Acorn" for anonymity)
As Sandrine said,(Apr 25) "Pre-mined cryptocurrencies like NeuCoin reintroduce a trust factor during a part of the distribution phase, while the Foundations still hold the majority of the coin. It is a paradigm Bitcointalk members do not like."

That's really weird. My calculation, with compound interest, would be for 70 days:

100% per year = 0.27% per day

3,000,000,000 * (1 + 0.27/100) ^70 = 3,633,262,031 NEU

So, it would be near what you say: "I had expected to see at least ~3.7bn in existence at this point"

Maybe it's a decreasing interest rate to avoid compound interest. But the question would be still what's wrong with one or both BE's.

Kind of funny is: It seems, nobody cares anymore about those questions. The team knows that Neucoin is done (is there still a team btw?). Some Investors maybe still hope but how many Investors do they have? The forum shows also a decreasing activity.

There are so many points, and every single point would be a huge scandal in every legit project, but it's totally normal for Neucoin that things are wrong and nobody cares.

Of course this calculation is near impossible to work out accurately. Deliberately so.

Kourosh stated he expected 8bn nokoin at end of 12 months, that is 5bn nokoin created. (possible 150bn nokoin after 10 years)

The interest rate is 100% in month one, 97.5% month two, 95.9% month 3.
However, the team billions are staking and therefore compounding almost every minute.
So, even though the monthly rate decreases, the compounding means the reward recieved each month increases.

Yet Alex Higgins has only received 38 nokoin pos reward on his 450,000 nokoin holding!
http://forum.neucoin.org/t/public-pos-stakes-being-orphaned-by-foundation-account-stakes/2289

But, as the, er, "team" control most ~97% of nokoin, the effect of nokoiners being unable to stake would be minimal on total nokoin numbers.
That would not account for the missing hundreds of million nokoin.

I think your figure of 3.633bn nokoin is a realisticly achievable and expected number.

However Tempus, as you say, "There are so many points, and every single point would be a huge scandal in every legit project, but it's totally normal for Neucoin that things are wrong and nobody cares."

Pretty much sums it up.

http://forum.neucoin.org/t/confusing-neucoin-transactions/2447/7