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I don't believe it was to show that Vertoe was shady...please reread what was posted as vertoe actually seemed to not like how the "Dash insiders" were operating hence he made several posts saying why he was not going to continue being involved in dash.

As i am one of the "Dash insiders": Do not expect to much.

Vertoe left because he did not agree with the vision/goal the team had for Darkcoin/Dash and he disliked the organizational structure the project team had back then. He made many code commits, did lots of work and came up with ideas for improvements - which did not get the attention he wanted to have. When he was left out on the discussion/decision on the Dash name change he was totally pissed and rage quitted. The rest is history.

I always respected his decision to leave the team and will continue to do so - though the style he chose to quit was inappropriate: He deleted work created by other volunteer team members, did some rant posts (the ones you are refering to) and finally passed his BCT account to others.

Some positive side effects: Some of his main critic points have been changed since then: The number of people who have admin access to github is >1 now and some (not all) of the centralized code (reference node) has been removed.

So.. i am looking forward what shady secrects will be revealed.

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so what is the "big thing" vertoe is referring to? who are the fishy people vertoe mentioned?

You'll have to ask vertoe what he meant. I can only speculate that his perception about the "big thing" was the vision/goal of the Darkcoin project itself: create a new cryptocurrency which is superior to Bitcoin in different aspects. Add the usual get-rich-quick scheme to that and you have your big thing.

I am part of the team since 18 months now and none of the involved people i have met in real life are fishy - neither vertoe, nor otoh, nor eduffield, nor minotaur, nor balu, nor dutchn0mad. We are just a bunch of people having fun spending their free time on a community driven project. I can't see anything wrong with that.

so we just take your word? any proof?

i like your definition of the "big thing" which is..."get-rich-quick scheme" ....i'll derive other meaning to it..a scam..yeah scam it is Cheesy

okay, none of them are fishy..make another speculation about this.

Quote from: vertoe on March 29, 2015, 11:53:05 PM

the things going on here are fishy, intransparent and rely on a single entity.

Proof for what? That I met all of them in real life? There are several photos of me and them flying around in this thread. Proof they are not fishy? How do you proof that you are not fishy by yourself? My current perception is that you are hostile and insulting to any other person not complying to your point of view. Proof me wrong.

With a strong confirmation bias like yours you can turn every argument in a way that it confirms your "scam theory" - same as for every conspiracy theory. Following your logic every crypto currency is a get-rich-quick scheme - even Bitcoin has this argument brought up by its opponents.

Like I wrote: Vertoe was unhappy with how decisions were made by the team, his feeling was that Evan as lead developer had a to strong weight and considered this being "single entity". He did not like it, took the appropriate actions and left. Love it, leave it or change it - that's how real life works.

For now I am waiting for the vertoe PMs to reveal my lack of knowledge of human nature and learn that my team members are shady scammers. Time will tell.

the "burden of proof" is on you people, not me.

you are insulted? when i ask questions on user accounts that are..
1.) registered very close to darkcoin launch
2.) non newbie first posts already in darkcoin and darkcoin and darkcoin until thy kingdom come.

how about bigrcanada? (hi bigr) signup jan 5 2014, darkcoin launch jan 18 2014 and then first posts all darkcoin and now a foundation member..and he doesn't answer my inquiry.