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Re: Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud)
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VeritasSapere
on 08/12/2015, 14:09:12 UTC
Veritas Sapere trying to simultaneously claim that:

  • Economic majority got the wrong answer to the question of the blocksize increase
  • The will of the economic majority should be respected
  • Veritas Sapere can simply assert who the economic majority are and what their position is at any given time
  • BIP101 is the worst scaling scheme
  • BIP101 isn't such a bad scaling scheme
  • Soft forks are a "disgusting" abuse of power
  • Devs are free to implement soft forks as they please
  • Veritas Sapere does not hold contradictory and/or hypocritical views

Any more, VS? It's an interesting list so far, is it possible that you could make it even more logically incoherent?
There is not a single hypocrisy in my position that you have successfully pointed out. I also do not think the economic majority is presently wrong in regards to the question of the blocksize. I have already countered the other accusations of hypocrisy. It is not my fault that you seem to be unable to understand the subtlety and nuance of ethics and modern political thought.

I will attempt to explain it again in a more general form. Sometimes people have the right to do things even though these things might be wrong, this is not contradictory, this is respecting freedom and having tolerance. For instance I respect freedom of speech, however there are many things that people can say that are outright horrible and wrong, like hate speech for example. However in order to preserve freedom of speech we need to respect other peoples right to do things that we consider to be wrong. We can also apply this to the censorship in the Bitcoin community. It was wrong for Theymos to censor reddit, yet he did have the right to do so on the forum that he controlled. Can you see how this in fact is not a contradiction but a feature of a good ethical philosophy.
We should be learning to "understand the subtlety and nuance of ethics and modern political thought"  Huh

I'm completely confused by this "economic majority", it just doesn't make any sense. From https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Economic_majority:
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The theory that the power to control the Bitcoin protocol is held by those able and willing to offer things of value for bitcoins (be it goods, services or other currencies).
Then it continues with some blabber about miners trying to change the protocol.  Huh

VS, this dubious "economic majority" theory holds much weight in your "arguments". And furthermore, you claim that this majority is with XT. This is completely misguided. Please try to understand the source code and the engineering behind Bitcoin, and then come with your stupid political thought philosophy madness. Meanwhile, you don't know what you're talking about. You keep making a fool of yourself, and you're similar to a central bank chairman, one of those high-IQ PhD fools.

If you insist with your foolishness, at least try to keep your posts small and to the point. When I'm reading your unending political philosophy thought ethics, I feel like I'm reading marxist articles.
I never claimed that the economic majority is presently siding with XT, I am not in a position to know that, furthermore I suspect that January will be a very informative month in that regard. So you are arguing a straw man here, for the rest of your post you have not actually made any arguments.

There is also much more to Bitcoin governance then just the full nodes. That would be an oversimplification, the governance of Bitcoin exists as an interconnected web of variant interests, represented by the nodes as well as the miners among other parties.