Quote from: Dalkore on November 09, 2012, 08:06:43 PM

You should have more empathy towards that kind of human suffering unless you do not have the ability to show empathy.

This is about money. Let us not mix things, because contrary to what you might think the reason fiat failed is exactly an attempt to mix them.

If you want to show empathy go ahead and donate, help someone, whatever. Do not attempt to ruin the workings of the economy, because in the end that just spells disaster (and for a good discussion on the why and wherefores, even if somewhat remote, see "It's not yours to give" Davy Crockett bit).

And incidentally, we happen to be the only Bitcoin business with an actual, regular CSR program. We've donated to numerous worthy causes, it's all in the monthly P&L statements. You seem to be arguing against the dirt of mud from inside the swamp or something like that.

Quote from: Dalkore on November 09, 2012, 08:06:43 PM

You speak of the history of Bitcoin, you may want to re-read this history. As far as I can see, Satoshi made Bitcoin as an Alternative to our current monetary system that actually mirrors your " world of ten poor people is of no interest, a world of four rich people (even if their riches come at the expense of excluding six others) is what we're building." comment.

The problem here is that I speak of the history as it is and you speak of the mythology as you imagine and interpret it.

In point of fact the historical events are Peter Lambert, Pirate, Meni Rosenfeld (with Bitdaytrade), Kludge, Nefario, the fifty-odd scams perpetrated under the GLBSE umbrella and so on. The cause of those (or, in some cases, the main compounding factor) was exactly this mistaken socialist attitude.

What Satoshi intended or didn't intend is a point of conjecture. I can just as well say he created Bitcoin specifically to nip in the bud even the hope of your attitude ever reaching cultural relevance again. I happen to believe this is exactly true. What difference does it make?

Quote from: Dalkore on November 09, 2012, 08:06:43 PM

I do believe in Justice, a fair Rule of Law and providing opportunity to all.

This is fine and not something anyone disputes. You further [seem to] believe that "providing opportunity" is something that you are allowed to do by stealing from those who do well to prop those who do poorly. This is certainly unacceptable, and provably what Bitcoin was made to destroy.

Quote from: Deprived on November 09, 2012, 08:11:47 PM

PH: I have a truck with 1500 pounds of cherries on to sell you.
MP: Are there really 1500 pounds of cherries on it?
PH: Yes.
MP: OK I'll buy the truck.

Some months Later.

PH: About that truck ... The truck's bust and turns out it had 5 pounds of bananas in it not any cherries. So you can't have the money you paid me back as you should have known I couldn't possibly have any cherries.

Quote from: MPOE-PR on November 06, 2012, 05:23:59 PM

So to use your cherries example: someone agreed to sell one truck with 5k lbs of cherries to be delivered at a specified location at a specified time, and someone agreed to buy same. The buyer paid the seller on the spot. At time of delivery, seller informs buyer that a) there's only 4500 lbs of cherries in the truck and b) the truck is "somewhere in Argentina" but will be making it towards the specified location "as best it can".

Well duh.

I am inclined to think augustocrappo is inclined to think something novel and interesting which he'll share with us presently.