Quote from: barabbas on December 17, 2015, 01:09:58 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on December 17, 2015, 12:57:32 AM

Quote from: barabbas on December 16, 2015, 11:50:55 PM

The same small group of con individuals continue taking the idiots for a ride. Maybe there's some kind of poetic justice there after all.

"Never underestimate the levels of idiocy in large groups of people".

Amazing. Simply amazing.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were. But we need to research who these individuals really are. So it would really be a public service if someone out there knows something and kindly make a post here.

Not really. Waste of time, not service.
Here's the indisputable reality for you:

1.-The same small group of people has gazillions of NXT that they need to keep unloading, regardless of the price -as slowly as they can, not to kill it completely-, and have been doing so for many, many months. And continue. These too, Dave and Bass are part of the group.

Nope. This bit is wrong. I don't have gazillions of NXT, never did. Would be nice, though. This is just conspiracy theory thinking/FUD with no basis in fact.

2.- These guys, the group with Dave and Bass leading, decided to give the idiots (those are people like you, who "believe") what they were asking for ("marketing and PR"). Mind you, you (the idiots) were asking for that to keep alive the fable or your own creation rather than admit you have been taken). So they organized the collection for that purpose. 10 million NXT. They were not going to give a cent of it to professionals, of course. So they kept it and assigned to themselves and such professionals, to keep on sucking from the same tit, only now in the open. And, of course, they gave the contract for the website to another of the group. Mind you the cost of the website is absurd since anyone can do it with wordpress for free. So the 10 million will quickly disappear and you will have the same things to show for it that you have now, two months since assigned: ZERO.

I'm not the leader of anything, B, other than being co-lead on Tennessee for the last 2 months. Nxt is a decentralised organisation, which means that anyone can step up and do stuff. DE is as much a leader as I am, and there are plenty of other guys who are filling distributed leadership roles.
If you'd read anything about the Tennessee project to date, you'd see that we are bringing in professionals for marketing/website construction:
http://www.farlawebmedia.nl/
taking care of webdesign, and we have a media consultant on a 3 month trial contract.
So, again, nope. 50% of the 10 million NXT is going to pay me and Bas a part time salary for the next year (206,000 NXT per person/month, $1300 right now.)
The rest is getting spent on people and tools.

3.- All of this doesn't slow down, in the least, the dumping of NXT. They did it at 9000, at 5000, at 2000 and will continue doing it -as much as there's ANY demand at ANY price-.

4.- Do you still have some reservations? let me spell it for you: Y O U H A V E B E E N T A K E N.

About the business with BK, Nautilus and that other guy... are you kidding me??? Brian Kelly comes out on TV one every blue moon and DOES run an investment fund. Have you taken a close look at who these guys, Dave and Bass are, really are? They would KILL for being mentioned with Kelly on the same sentence. No matter the price.

Taken. You have been taken.

Another great post, B.

@DE.....you're totally welcome to disagree with me, mate. Not a problem.
I do still feel that you are blowing this completely out of proportion,
and by doing so causing a lot more damage to Nxt than my advice to wait and research the alt-coin world before investing in anything.

We obviously have different approaches to promoting Nxt: you seem to want me to relentlessly shill at every opportunity, and I like to be a lot more honest and open.
Right now, Bitcoin is the market leader, and all other crypto-currencies (including NXT) are still highly speculative investments.
I know that Nxt is superior to BTC in a lot of ways, no argument, and I'm pretty certain that we'll be one of the dominant crypto systems over the next decade.
But: I'm not a fanatical maximalist for any side, I think that we will see a crypto market with multiple currencies for a very long time, and that there will probably never be a completely homogenous crypto currency ecosystem. Like it or not, BTC and NXT will exist alongside each other for a while yet, barring disasters for either system.

And on the Ford/Mercedes thing: I used to be a motorcycle riding instructor, and my advice was always to start out on something slow and shitty as a first bike.
Get used to the basics on something basic, then move up to serious motorcycles. Cheesy

Anyhow: last point coming up, 'cause this is taking time up that I could better spend on Tennessee:

Tennessee is an initiative from the Nxt Foundation, not from the Nxt community as a whole, because decentralisation.
We came up with a plan, presented it to the community, and asked for funding.
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/%28marketing-business-and-development%29-the-tennessee-project-fundraiser/
We are now implementing this plan (to the letter, check the goals list) under mine and Bas' leadership.
Naturally, we're open to input from the community, but at the end of the day, this is our project.

Nxt is a decentralised organisation, and TNSSE is just one element,
there is plenty of room for others to step up and run marketing (or whatever) initiatives if they don't like any aspect of our approach:
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/nxt-revitalization-plan/

I'm not going to toe a party line imposed on me by anyone who thinks that we should only have one way to promote Nxt,
and I'm also not going to force people to follow my way of doing things. Follow me if you like, but if you don't want to.....not a problem Grin

Decentralisation is not just a word, it's a principle.