Quote from: USB-S on December 19, 2015, 09:20:01 AM

Quote from: Post-Cosmic on December 19, 2015, 09:11:53 AM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 19, 2015, 08:55:32 AM

[..] [OP standing his ground stalwartly vs. barrage of starry-eyed debutante bad-trader/gambler bitcoinbubble dreamers] [..]

OP doesn't waver.

I like him.

+5!

This sums up the thread pretty well, Op if you truly sold your coins(which I doubt), why did you need the cash? Fiat isn't that good of a store of value, but you being a regular here know that pretty well. What did you buy with your wealth? Lighten us dear OP.

Quote from: Karartma1 on December 19, 2015, 09:33:13 AM

What I don't get is why telling the world your dumping your coins? Ok some of your points make sense some don't.
Show us proof you're out and sell your account. And even if you're right you gave no real explanation why this thing is going to fail. All hypothesis.

Btc will be here as long as there's Bitcoin core, internet and two or three friends mining.

I'm not against you but maybe take a break, put your coins in cold storage, and then come back.

I'm going to do what I've been doing last months - trading. But this time my depo is in fiat, not bitcoin. I totally disagree about storing fiat is a bad idea. Bitcoin has reached its peak and it's not going any higher. So sell btc now and open a short position is a great idea IMO.

I also invest in blockchains and small startups/projects.

Quote from: enhu on December 19, 2015, 09:23:15 AM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 19, 2015, 08:55:32 AM

PoW don't need to be replicated. Banks/govs can create a PoS system with several central forging servers. This is just an example and there are more solutions.

I doubt an individual here will use that centralized coin. the very reason why we are here is to be free from them so why use their system. No one has stopped bitcoin, if they can, they should have done it. stop bitcoin long before it started to be known.

That coin has to nothing do with centralization. That's like saying NXT is centralized. What more important is that normal people (masses) don't give a flying bit about (de)centralization and other things like this. They use what they are told to. People like you and other smart-asses is a minority, have always been, will always be. This is how life goes. And I repeat that bitcoin doesn't need to be stopped, it cannot be. People can be stopped from using it.

Also consider that an average bitcoiner cares only about price. If it goes below $100 and stays there somehow for a while that average bitcoiner will abandon the ship and will curse the day he/she bought btc. There's an extremely small amount of people who are really interested in the technology.

Quote from: BitUsher on December 19, 2015, 11:44:56 AM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 19, 2015, 08:55:32 AM

PoW don't need to be replicated. Banks/govs can create a PoS system with several central forging servers. This is just an example and there are more solutions.

PoS , especially PoS controlled by corrupt parties who knowingly break the law, repeatedly, isn't secure . Additionally, you fail to address my other points. It isn't just speculation as well -

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=3&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=cryptocurrency.TTL.&OS=TTL/cryptocurrency&RS=TTL/cryptocurrency

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=7&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=bitcoin&OS=bitcoin&RS=bitcoin

Will I use a coin with the above technologies.... nope. Will these banks coins be inflationary as well... of course... See--
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's_law
https://medium.com/@BambouClub/best-and-worst-performing-currencies-in-2015-d1e62088bc29#.9dijwak26

I pointed that it was just an example. Corps/banks/govs and other powerful structures have tons of money for researches, coders, scientists, etc. So better solutions are yet to come.

Quote from: BitUsher on December 19, 2015, 11:44:56 AM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 19, 2015, 08:55:32 AM

But all these things won't make price go up. Basically, I want to say that dreams about $1-3-5k and so on per coin are sick.

Actually , you haven't done the math. Lets assume a fantastic premise to bolster your flimsy argument. In the extremely unlikely event that bitcoin becomes illegal in every country thus eliminating the whitemarket, heavily criminalized with severe penalties thus eliminating the grey market, it will be used just on the blackmarket.... and if it grows to only encompassing a very conservative 5% of the blackmarket you are talking about 100k dollar coins eventually.

Bitcoin has already reach critical mass and will continue to grow.

Bitcoin can't be banned in every county possible. China and the EU counties. That's all it needs and bitcoin is almost gone. Black markets won't last long too.

Quote from: TERA on December 19, 2015, 11:49:07 AM

It's already been $1K and dreams about $5K -$10K are a perfectly rational place for price to be driven up on the next ATH rally, if only due to speculators/traders who are along for the usual ATH ride. Whether it stays there is another story.

It's been when there was a flux of money from China that is now shut by PBOC and when there was so-called willybot. When and only when.

Quote from: Denker on December 19, 2015, 12:39:13 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on December 18, 2015, 03:23:45 PM

What a shitty thread. **Thumbs down**

Are you a butthurt bear trying to get the price down so you can get in cheap or did you sell everything at 300?

That seems to be the case.
He is sitting on a huge amount of fiat and would like to participate in Bitcoin. But that is not all.Being greedy as hell he wants the cheapest coins he can get.Therefore he made this most stupid post I have ever read in hope to get the expected reaction.
He will fail miserably with this attempt.

Sure I do. I do want to grab cheap coins. As low as just $449.90! They are so cheap! Grab cheap coins ASAP! Tomorrow price with no discount will be $40 000 or even more that's what Winklevoss twins said!

No man this is the most foolish shit I've ever heard.

Quote from: Siatald on December 19, 2015, 02:14:02 PM

Quote from: r0ach on December 18, 2015, 05:42:22 PM

Quote from: BitcoinNewsMagazine on December 18, 2015, 05:33:49 PM

Proof positive that Hero Rank means zilch.

It's a bought account like Kwukduck. Bankers just buy them and spam jibberish.

If the bitcoin price drops because of the spams, it is good for poor people like us. We can buy more bitcoin cheaply.

Grap cheap coins before it's too late!

Quote from: AtheistAKASaneBrain on December 19, 2015, 02:24:43 PM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 18, 2015, 03:12:43 PM

Also, such a risk as banning Bitcoin in many countries must be considered. First of all, in China. Chinese government is a totalitarian one and they will finally ban bitcoin if it becomes a problem for them. Just like here, in Russia. European Union will likely ban using of bitcoin someday "to stop ISIS/terrorism financing". The US is not the world. The rest are weak/poor/small countries.

It sure works lol

http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2015/10/26/coin-dance-RUB-volume.jpg

You don't seem to get the fact that for Bitcoin to become a success, it doesn't need government's approval (for it was designed to be censorship resistant) and it doesn't need the average joe buying coffee with it. The average joe doesn't buy coffee with gold, yet gold has trillions for a marketcap.
You just trying to find justifications after dumping all of your Bitcoins to not feel like an idiot. You've made a mistake by buying on the blockchains by bank thinks and you will realize this fact in a couple of years.

Bitcoin hasn't been banned in Russia yet. And I don't regret about anything. No matter what I've done.

Quote from: RoadTrain on December 19, 2015, 03:55:40 PM

Quote from: -Greed- on December 19, 2015, 08:55:32 AM

Quote from: RoadTrain on December 18, 2015, 04:31:36 PM

So much nonsense in one paragraph.

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Banks/governments will never use Bitcoin. Instead they will create own scalable blockchains.

These 'blockchains' by no means can replace or compete with Bitcoin, because they destroy what Bitcoin offers: monetary sovereignty secured by massive hashing power.

First. This "massive hashing power" is controlled by few Chinese pools. Second. Who said they destroy what bitcoin offers?

Because what these 'blockchains' offer is a publicly auditable settlement ledger. Nothing more. They won't allow any kind of anonymity, they won't offer censorship-resistance secured by massive hashing power, they simply don't need it. Yes, Bitcoin is not perfect in that regard as well (chinese miners), but it's a lot better. These 'blockchains' are not designed to replace Bitcoin, they are designed to improve settlement mechanisms within traditional financial system.

These are just concepts. Real blockchains are yet to come. Anyway, corps working on blockchains is a very anxious signal for bitcoin.

Quote from: mobnepal on December 19, 2015, 04:31:52 PM

Haha no i am not giving you my coins at cheap like dirt price to you. I strongly beleive in bitcoin and i will keep on holding or even buying constantly till it get 1k. Cool

I wish I could have bought your cheap coins for as low as just $449.90...

Quote from: Nimbulan on December 19, 2015, 05:41:41 PM

i would sell all my bitcoins only if i had no more real money left and now as i have some to buy my food for i dont need to sell it and i keep getting more and more of it s i believe that bitcoin has a bright future and that its price will rise a lot in the future what will make me a millionaire

Sure it's possible to believe in anything even that tomorrow aliens will invade Earth. Faith is really not the thing you need when it comes to investments.