Quote from: helloeverybody on December 24, 2015, 09:55:55 PM

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Another one of you jokers. One who has all the knowledge in the world. But still can't distinguish the difference between "your" and "you're."

So now i have to put up with a grammar nazi as well, Do you wish me to proof read first for you? i was under the impression this was a forum not an english assessment. besides my line of work means i dont write much so excuse my sloppiness and text message lingo.Obviously i am dealing with a man of great wisdom before me?

Pointing out grammar mistakes is the sure sign of a well versed troll.

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1. Cause and effect;
2. Universal complexity;
3. Universal entropy.

You already explained how these things prove god and quite simply they do not. they offer no proof whatsoever.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on December 23, 2015, 04:45:45 PM

I a attempting to believe in nothing but trying to think how stuff works around me and why/how people believe the non-existent's.

A materialistic explanation for Near Death Experience is non-existent. These experiences are known to be medically unexplainable. If you are trying to think about how stuff works, why don't you think about my reply to you, including the 52 points of evidence and evidence from quantum biology; why do you choose instead to ignore it?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg13328132#msg13328132

Quote from: helloeverybody on December 23, 2015, 05:53:15 PM

I dont accept your gods and see no reason to capitalise your god

Why accept humanism? Humanism teaches that there is no life after death, but the truth is that we can shape what happens to us in the afterlife by our beliefs and decisions in this life.

Quote from: helloeverybody on December 23, 2015, 10:23:34 PM

I'm not at my pc so I can't really write out everything I would like to right now but basically all those facts can also be easily explained by science.

What about the facts of NDE? How can science explain them? I have not heard a rational argument about this from you and the other atheists in this thread, including OP.

I did cover nde's briefly some posts back and it was basicly due to brain chemistry/endorphins release causing hallucinations. It could be semi lucid dreaming. I read a study a while back that showed that those who floated above their beds actually got detail wrong about colour of sheets etc and who was in the room so more than likely nothing supernatural. not to mention lack of oxygen is going to seriously alter what your brain thinks is happening.

Your argument is invalid because NDE cannot be explained by brain chemistry alone:

You need a functioning brain with blood flow and electrical firing to have hallucinations and/or perceptions. None of that is present during brain death. So how are the perceptions explained?
In the AWARE study, the patient had true perceptions during brain death that were later confirmed by witnesses.

One researcher calls these "actual death experiences" because it is impossible to hallucinate, have perceptions, memory formation, etc. under such circumstances.

Quote from: helloeverybody on December 24, 2015, 09:34:15 PM

And like i said before im open minded, i just cant believe the ridiculous unless im given hard proof. I mean real proof not the kind that BADecker spouts that shows no proof whatsoever.

Open minded? Read my latest posts, read the 52 points of evidence and try to understand Orch OR. Since your argument is invalid, you need to devote yourself to more study in order to correct your understanding.

The most likely explanation for having a nde while brain dead is that the nde happened as the patient awakened and normal brain activity was returning.