Quote from: DieJohnny on December 28, 2015, 10:27:34 PM

I don't think you have to believe in the concave earth theory to be validated as an outside the box thinker.....

I actually believe in a spacial reality that is almost certainly NOT what our best thinking provides today. Math as we have invented it and atomic and quantum models as we have conjured them are most certainly juvenile attempts to describe an as yet unknown reality of space, mass and time.

It's not about believing in anything!!!! When do you people understand that this is not about believing. The word "believe" is an utterly bad word and should be avoided at all cost. I don't give a shit what you believe. If you believe in god or in the flat earth model. What I give shit about is uncensored information, true evidence and honest knowledge.

Quote from: DieJohnny on December 28, 2015, 10:27:34 PM

The concave earth premise by itself is almost certainly another terribly inadequate model of how our world works and unfortunately its simplicity requires too much magic making in the brain.

Here's your tomb stone, the above quote. So just because you know how to paraphrase "me disagreeing with you without any arguments backing it up" in the English language you think you have made a point? Or even worse, you think you have discarded the concave earth theory?

Let me use your strategy. I'm going to say this:
The convex earth premise by itself is almost certainly another terribly inadequate model of how our world works and unfortunately its simplicity requires too much magic making in the brain.

So, that said, the Earth is definitely not convex and any research on the matter should be stopped immediately because it is just stupid. Why do you people even say stuff like that? It just shows your expectation bias which has absolutely no objective value to anyone. You could as well as say that you believe in god and dare everyone else to debunk the existence of god. It's dumb. Stop it.

Quote from: DieJohnny on December 28, 2015, 10:27:34 PM

What would work better for me is that there are real physical laws as yet not understood by any human, that connects all space, matter, and time... where things like sphere's and solar systems and galaxies are simply optical illusions created by the very limited senses provided to us humans. To us these senses we are provided with help us validate our own inventions (math and physics) and nothing more. Unfortunately, we ultimately run into anomalies that we cannot explain that are artifacts of a the physical laws of which we know nothing about.... like sub atomic particles... and we are then left with multiple dimensions... and simultaneous realities... that help us cope with our inability to actually see and prevent us from throwing out everything we know because of our foolish pride.

concave or not, there's one thing for sure: WE DON'T KNOW what the shape of the Earth is. There's not enough publicly available evidence to even support the Copernicus'es model. The important question is --- why are we being deceived and who is deceiving us?

Quote from: vhaasteren on December 29, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

What problem does the concave Earth theory solve?

So here's your problem, you think you're so smart that you don't even bother to read my references. Here's one from
http://www.skepticfiles.org/ufo1/theory.htm

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It made the earth important again, rather than an
insignifigant speck in the cosmos. And it eliminted the difficult
concepts of infinite space and aimlessly scattered worlds. We're all
right here together in this safe, spherical womb.

Quote from: vhaasteren on December 29, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

For fun, test yourself. Google "are you a quack", and read the first hit (by Warren Siegel). I actually have gotten quite a few emails with theories of people that I have to refer to this...

Enough though. I'll go on mute again for a few years...

So I looked it up what you meant by quack. It pretty much says "believe what you are told and don't ask questions, the authority is always right and if you don't agree with the authority then you are a crackpot"

What a dumb shit to say in hope of trying to silence the truth seekers.