Quote from: notlist3d on December 30, 2015, 01:55:51 AM

Quote from: hugs1BTC on December 29, 2015, 04:43:24 PM

Do you think the latest blocks spike is related to new ASIC machines coming out in the near future? https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate

Some gear will not make it to most consumers. Look at bitfury you need to have a LARGE investment to get any gear there. I don't know exact amount but it's very sizable.

No group buy or other things will ever reach bitfury. So some new miners... but we will not have access as home/hobby miners to all.

note assumption below is if you home mined new equip...would be better off getting scrypt machines (if they exist in future) and convert ltc to btc direct or hold ltc and move
when the ratio is around 0.01 ltc to btc as has been in the past (what I do) ...as to a new asic sha-256 miner i think the current bitfury/bitmain/knc data halls etc are gonna
all come out at the same time and bury each other in difficulty over the moon rise..just saying ...so using this thread to point out what i know of 'supposed' scrypt NEW asic miners per say...

this is the point the scrypt miners SUPPOSEDLY coming out is at...for both Innsilicon and Alcheminer...(links below) the plug is ...give us large millions of dollars in IPO money
and we will fill up your scrypt data farm with machines at cost..ie newbie IPO money pre-order method ..taken from newbie home miner pre-order play book

https://www.alcheminer.com/alcheminer-scrypt-ii-project/ Alcheminer II IPO plug for such....bitcointalk thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234027.0

http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/11.html there same idea as above IPO plug for $$$ ..below bitcointalk thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1251930.0

so as you can see from the above links....IF they got the $$$ NOW it likely (with the usual 1-2 month delays) probably be at least 5-6 months till such hit the data halls
and at best 2 months after that before they went out to the w)orld in some manner beyond the data halls (alcheminer price of like for 512mh 1150watts 4950 usd in 6 months frigging LTC and/or scrypt coins better pop large for that to be pulled off...

my 2 knc titans..if i take one titan at 350mh 1250 watts and it has ROI'd (or you can buy one complete on ebay NOW for $3250 usd a 2nd batch titan 400mh it was)..anyway
my used titans can compete just fine in 6 months with these guys ..again ROI'd so I hope they are correct in their gamble ..price has to go up for LTC etc for these machines
to work ...or even exist imho ....even in data hall mode..in 5 months..or it is just a unicorn pipe dream.....unless they get some major newbie IPO $$$ which I find questionable?

anyway.....but again for what you can get a working scrypt miner now for the current say price of 3.50 usd LTC price NOW I just don't see these as getting built at 4.50 buck LTC maybe ...but below that nope...again unless all got a 'memo' that btc and ltc is gonna pop and the data hall equiv and hopefully side order machines above can make sense to build.

anyway hope I'm wrong ..I'd be sitting pretty if you could ROI with these new units in 6 months with the 2 Titans that have ROI'd already even at my 13.7c next summer
electric prices

I mean I really really want them to come out because they are correct and they can make money on such with a data hall etc and/or indv machines....I would
be sooooooo friggging happy

but it looks/smells/and has all the tell tale signs of 'unicorn poop' so don't think it is very frigging likely...(so want a unicorn/rainbow/fairy dust happy ending to the above)