Quote from: dooglus on January 06, 2016, 07:08:37 AM

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 02:23:25 AM

Quote from: dooglus on January 06, 2016, 02:19:42 AM

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 02:17:25 AM

Could you explain in detail the steps for us to cheat? as you said we are picking the client seed so unpredictably?

  1. buy a ticket
  2. wait for the game to end
  3. check if you win if you use the current time in milliseconds as the client seed
  4. if you do, go ahead and win, else add 1 millisecond to the time and go back to step 3

Doing this you win every time. Sometimes you will use a timestamp that is 10 milliseconds later than the actual end time. That's 1/100th of a second. Nobody will notice.

I think the issue is like you said your connection is extremely slow, you are seeing the site not how everyone else is seeing it. Because soon as the game ends the winner is picked, there is no way to go back to step 3

Steps 3 and 4 can run in a tight loop on your server in a tiny fraction of a second. Nobody will see it happening. It's not about my connection speed.

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 02:23:25 AM

When you said"
1) I wouldn't be cheating you, I would be cheating your customers. You still get your 1% cut. It's rude of you to invite us to try to cheat your customers.

I thought you wanted to help the community? wouldn't you be helping them by proving your theory is right?

Everybody who is following this thread already understands what I am saying and sees that I am right. You have some kind of a blind spot and can't or won't see it. I don't need to steal from your customers to prove that what I am saying is right.

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 03:37:34 AM

The fact is your claims have not been proven, i have asked you to prove what your saying, but you have failed to do so.

I have given more than enough information for any reasonably intelligent reader to see why your game isn't provably fair. There is no burden of proof upon me here.

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 03:37:34 AM

You are no different then the house, if you think you can cheat the system then DO IT.

I am very different than the house. I don't get to pick which txid to use, or which particular millisecond to claim the game ended during.

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 03:37:34 AM

Once you have done that then you can say its not provably fair.

I can say it already, and have done. Many times. You don't understand, and I get that. I don't think you ever will. I think you should really find something else to do, or at least find somebody qualified to take care of the technical aspects of your site.

Quote from: btc-raffle.com on January 06, 2016, 03:37:34 AM

Or like i have asked before tell us some other way if you are so experienced in this field.

I don't think I can help you any more than I already have done. I'm sorry. Find your smartest techy friend. Sit down with them and have them go through both threads with you. Have them explain everything to you and make sure you understand it.

"Steps 3 and 4 can run in a tight loop on your server in a tiny fraction of a second. Nobody will see it happening. It's not about my connection speed."

For sure you connection is causing issues on your end. Did you watch the youtube video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RTjeQbHtDk&feature=youtu.be
Please let me know.

Everybody who is following this thread already understands what I am saying and sees that I am right. You have some kind of a blind spot and can't or won't see it. I don't need to steal from your customers to prove that what I am saying is right.

How is that a reply? i will ask you again.

When you said"
1) I wouldn't be cheating you, I would be cheating your customers. You still get your 1% cut. It's rude of you to invite us to try to cheat your customers.

I though you wanted to help the community? wouldn't you be helping them by proving your theory is right?

I have given more than enough information for any reasonably intelligent reader to see why your game isn't provably fair. There is no burden of proof upon me here.

Thanks looks like you really care about "helping the community" like you said before.

I am very different than the house. I don't get to pick which txid to use, or which particular millisecond to claim the game ended during.

You can verify each millisecond and txid to make sure it's legit.

I can say it already, and have done. Many times. You don't understand, and I get that. I don't think you ever will. I think you should really find something else to do, or at least find somebody qualified to take care of the technical aspects of your site.

You have really only speculated if we broadcast a txid it would help us using a house account to win the pot. The fact is still the winning millisecond + the winning txid would have to be known. i see what your saying we could know the outcome. But you would have to make a real bitcoin transaction (costing $0.04), and generate the txid that would make our house account win, all this would have to be within seconds.

Everyone is free to check every txid used. It does not make any sense to do all this, hope to get lucky and the txid is broadcasted at the exact second we want it to. What if someone buys a ticket at the last second, resets the clock, now we need to do another $0.04 fee to rig it? to do all that, atleast at the time being when the average profit is less then a transaction fee it makes no sense to rig it.

So maybe you can be less hostile.

I don't think I can help you any more than I already have done. I'm sorry. Find your smartest techy friend. Sit down with them and have them go through both threads with you. Have them explain everything to you and make sure you understand it.

See your not here to help anyone your hear to make other people look bad.

Why not just simply say how we should pick the winner and we will use your method.

I thought you were the expert on this?