Quote from: kingaltcoins on January 13, 2016, 06:33:34 PM

Quote from: pjsonowal on January 13, 2016, 04:49:18 PM

I just got over a way to finish this kind of things . please read it full: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326409.new#new

Staffs cannot get them involved in escrows and how will you just trust a staff because he has a profile tag of a staff? I will still not feel 10% secure in escrowing with an unknown staff. Even theymos also. Roll Eyes

Its better you locked that useless thread.

Sorry but i didnt wanted to put up a so called " useless thread ". I just tried up . I already mentioned that i might not be good and may miss up some points so correct me up . And i had already locked that thread at 5:34 PM around , so i guess there was no need of advising me again to lock that thread that was locked one hour ago. You were asking for DOUBLE-LOCK ? :p well thats not available Grin

Quote from: GlooBoy on January 13, 2016, 08:39:23 PM

Quote from: pjsonowal on January 13, 2016, 04:49:18 PM

I just got over a way to finish this kind of things . please read it full: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1326409.new#new

I went to reply to this thread, only to find it locked by the time I was ready to post.

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~please comment only if you read it whole

My reply:
Almost every single person scammed on this forum DID go and look at a "list" of trusted peeps.

Another list in NOT the answer and is not going to change anything. Its is just too easy for scammers to infiltrate the list and look like they are legit.(they really do create new shills every day, this way, when one 'gets caught' they have a dozens more ready to step in its place)

Why not tell people to STOP looking at these list that are NOT kept up-to-date and are mostly started by questionable people in the first place.

Maybe do a little research YOURSELF on the person you are trusting with your money. (I know, crazy talk)

I am truly amazed how much info is found out about these scammers AFTER the fact. This exact same info was available BEFORE you handed a complete stranger your money on the advice of another stranger, based on a number next to their fake name.

Anyone caught dealing with selling of accounts should be avoided completely, forever. (you cannot ban all these peeps, but you can avoid them, and mark them in your trust list)
This includes buyers, sellers and escrows.
There is absolutely NO REASON for a trusted person to keep a list of shills. No reason for a trusted person to SELL THEIR IDENTITY.
And no reason why a trusted escrow would get involved with such deceitful practices.(except profit for them at your expense later)

Giving money to admin or staff does NOTHING to fix this problem.
Do I really need to break out the list of trusted staffers and mods that have gone scammer?

To me, the problem IS the trusted lists.

The solution has been around for ages but it seems NOT A SINGLE TRUSTED ESCROW is pushing multi-sig.
Its always "You can trust this one or that one or ME with YOUR money" not a one pushing multi-sig. You just need to ask yourself why.

Escrow should never be used unless for small amounts and the end result should ALWAYS be helping to teach noobs how to use multi-sig.
If your escrow is not teaching you about, and how to use multi-sig, you should find another escrow.
Its YOUR Money. and with a little extra work, you get to stay in control of it.(if you figured out how to use bitcoin, you can figure out multi-sig too)

Esp. if you are looking for "free" escrow - Why would anyone do free work unless there was a payout at the end of the rainbow.
The only Free service I offer requires YOU to do all the work. I would only get involved when arbitration is needed.
In fact, I wouldn't even know you used my service unless I'm contacted for arbitration.

You finally found a moneys that you are completely in control of.
When you hand this money over freely to a stranger, it is NO LONGER YOUR MONEY.
Stay in control, use 2-3 multi-sig with a trusted arbitrator.

And do your own research. ......or buy a big box of tissues.

The choice is yours.

...And yes, I am going to put out there that I have been doing "FREE Escrow" in bitcoin-OTC for many years.

But if you did your research, you would already know that.

yeah i got my mistakes on the thread/post thats why i locked up the thread. And some of the points you picked up was the same.