Quote from: generalizethis on January 14, 2016, 09:16:05 AM

It's 2-4am in the states, maybe a wake-up call should be made later in the day.

Thanks. I have been awake for 24 hours.

Quote from: smooth on January 14, 2016, 06:40:49 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on January 14, 2016, 06:33:14 AM

Doesn't it bother you all in the least that Aeon and Monero are both in the same predicament as the shitcoins you hate, in that none of you have any use as a currency. Very near to zero. Perhaps Monero some. But no where near to 10,000 users, not to mention a million users?

No, it doesn't bother me.

That is disappointing. Because you as the leader set the standards and sense of urgency too low. As a leader I would feel miserable and highly embarrassed to create a crypto currency that had less than 100,000 users 6 to 12 months after launch. Anything less than that is a circle jerk. If you just want a private club, then you are just the same Bitshares or any other small macrocosm fetish (regardless of whatever tech you have).

If you want to play with the big boys, then you don't even start talking and opening our mouth until we have a 100,000 users and on the way to a million users.

I really wish you had said, "yes I am highly uncomfortable with being just another shitcoin and I want to do something about it, damn it". Where is the competitive fire in your belly?

I know you are smart and capable. Why the lack of drive? Burned out? Satisfied?

Quote from: smooth on January 14, 2016, 06:40:49 AM

AEON has many more users than it had a year ago. Monero probably does too. Growth is often slow at first. But then we don't know whether they may hit a hard ceiling. That is certainly possible. Monero seems to have better absolute prospects by virtue of a larger profile and community (and I don't just mean bitcointalk forum users), but that is reflected in the price somewhat I suppose.

So Aeon is duplicating Monero speculators. No big surprise there. Yawn. Circle-jerk. You mine your own speculators twice. How about attempting something that requires real risk, dedication, hard work, and sacrifice? A real challenge?

It doesn't matter if it is growing. If the rate of growth is not at least 100,000 users in 12 months, then your efforts are entirely irrelevant to the world.

Don't you want to make your mark on the world?

Quote from: smooth on January 14, 2016, 06:40:49 AM

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Or are we unable to change? Always going to be talking about investor crap such as limit orders and shit that does nothing for adoption.

I have nothing against adoption but also nothing against speculation, nor development-focused projects that are rough but may or may not gain users at a greater level of maturity and utility. They all have their roles to play. If someone wants to create applications and/or use cases for AEON (or Monero or even Bitcoin or some other reasonably credible project), I'd be happy to help if there is something productive I can do.

Smooth I respect the desire to be logical and balanced in reason. But development-focused projects with 1000 users are not going to help us. And they are not going to make any mark on the world.

It is frustrating for me because I can't understand your rationale. Development-focused for what gain? Some nebulous idea that one day some block chain tech you did might be useful for something? Success must be seized much more rapidly than that, or it doesn't come at any great scale later. Because all natural phenomena have a natural rate of growth and it is evident early on what that growth curve is. It should be clear to you by now that Aeon can't scale usership to any significant level.

We only get so many productive years in life. We must carpe diem and maximize our impact on the world, if we want to be more than just another cog in the wheel.

I am not pressuring you if you don't want to be pressured. I am pressuring you if you need someone to push you. Maybe you need a drill sergeant. Or maybe you don't want.

Don't you want to kick some ass?