Quote from: Lauda on January 15, 2016, 04:46:25 PM

You guys have started directly attacking each other; this does not benefit anyone and the "discussion" is pretty useless then. How about you guys shift your focus to something else?

I complain about this for days. But as long as it was just small block militia attacking everyone else you didn't care.

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Quote from: Bergmann_Christoph on January 15, 2016, 04:21:23 PM

The funny thing is, I'm absolutely sure, our small block fanatics are nothing but important or rich by themselves.

It is not as simple as small block proponents vs big blockers. It is more about the conservative side vs the impatient side, however there are different "groups" that are currently present.

You are no small block fanatic. I think I made clear enough what kind of people and mindset here I mean with "small block militia". You have reasons, you are open to arguments and you have another capacity to express than yelling and insulting.

Conservative vs. impatient, gold vs payment may be good for some arguments. But what we see here, organized by a couple of posters, has nothing to do with arguments. I tried to discuss, but I don't see any sense in it as long as these characters dominate the threads. I just stay here to let them not possess the battlefield completely and warn other users.

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Quote from: Bergmann_Christoph on January 15, 2016, 04:21:23 PM

Currently we are in a strange situation. Most people want to scale Bitcoin and want that as many people as possible enjoy bitcoin. The core dev's problem is that they care too much and fear larger blocks will hurt decentralization. Without wanting it they support with this the other group which thinks bitcoin should be a privilegium.

The thing is: except from a tiny minority everyone here wants to bringt bitcoin to as many people as possible.

The developers are working on a proposal to scale short term before improving the infrastructure and scaling again. SegWit will bring the needed space within a few months.

I know, I know, I know. Maybe it will be ok, than everything is good, but I think it will come to late and will be not enough.

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Quote from: Bergmann_Christoph on January 15, 2016, 04:39:05 PM

Classic..

They don't even have code. Classic is a huge joke IMO. However, I wouldn't mind if this eventually forces Core to bump to 2 MB.

They don't need so much code, they just change blocksize with an xt-like voting to 2MB. And as long as they have the support of major miners they will succeed with it.

if this forces Code to bump to 2 MB it would also be ok. Some people of team big block think we should get rid of core. I don't think so, I believe them to be of a great value for Bitcoin.

edit: why did you add this?

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It is actually sad how you guys forget everything due to being manipulated by others.

If you say everybody supporting bigger blocks is manipulated you attack their intelligence. This makes discussion, as you say, completely useless, because you reject the idea big blocker could have valid arguments. If you know that their arguments are just manipulation, you can stopp thinking.