Quote from: strayanbit on January 18, 2016, 03:57:59 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 03:49:14 PM

Quote from: Loimu on January 18, 2016, 03:19:59 PM

I hate religions because they cause wars and are simply ridiculous. I cannot comprehend how any self-respecting adult would publicly admit believing in imaginary friend based on those tales that have been around thousands of years in different forms. Especially when science can proof all that pure nonsense. All 'gods' are ultimately creation of people and they are all based on the same worshiping of the sun which started long before even christianity was around.

There is truth in what you say. That's why real Christians try to NOT believe in imaginary friends, although they are taught in childhood through modern cartoons to believe in many.

Science doesn't prove Christianity to be nonsense. In fact, it proves Christianity to be truth.

Some aspects of science are full of nonsense. One example is the Big Bang Theory. The Big Bang Theory itself is not nonsensical to look at. The thing is nonsensical about it is the way many adults consider this fictional Theory to be truth or near truth. And they parade it as truth just like a Christian might parade his Christianity as truth.

Again, Newton's 3rd Law essentially shows us that everything we have and are, comes from something that caused us to happen this way. Even our daily thoughts are controlled and caused by brain activity that came about because of former brain activity - and a multitude of other chemistry - that caused us to think the way we do.

We can't see what started this complex universe, so that all this complexity could operate through the universal cause and effect that has operated for thousands of years, according to Newton's 3rd Law. The thing that we CAN understand is that it (The Great First Cause) is great enough that it fits the definitions of the word "God" in our dictionaries and encyclopedias of today.

Ok, so you're saying we can't know objectively how the universe started, but we can call it god?
So you're a Pantheist now?

Is it all related to the spark of god that you mentioned before>?

"I" should not be the focus. The things that I say are not everything. But I have to start somewhere basic enough to get you to start to think clearly.

Think clearly about the fact (according to Newton's 3rd Law, which is a LAW, not a theory) that cause and effect penetrate everything in the universe. This means that there is no such thing as pure random. In other words, everything happens because something else caused it to happen, not because it randomly happened.

Yet, the universe is very complex... especially in the brains and minds of mankind. Something that could cause the brain and mind of mankind to exist now, through all the cause and effect that happened in the past, is very great. What this means is...

Let's say for a moment that the universe DID come about by a Big Bang. Because the complexity of humanity is the result, and the intelligence of mankind is very great, The Big Bang (or whatever caused it) must have been ultimately intelligent to have caused all this intelligence over Billions of years, all through (what we would normally call random) cause and effect.

Don't think about me. Rather focus on the idea.