Quote from: organofcorti on January 18, 2016, 09:19:08 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 08:57:25 PM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 18, 2016, 08:14:49 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 03:33:47 PM

Quote from: organofcorti on January 18, 2016, 03:21:50 AM

1. You state:

Quote from: BADecker on January 17, 2016, 09:34:55 PM

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

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a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

2. I explained that atheists have no beliefs concerning the purpose of the universe.

3. Therefore your simple definition does not apply to atheists.

Are you changing your simple definition or will you ignore a logical argument?

2. Some people believe the earth is flat.

3. True explanations of the shape of the earth apply to all people, even if they don't understand or believe them. Truth conquers belief.

4. I am accepting, as always, the logical ideas of using the definitions of the dictionaries and encyclopedias. What, again, are you doing?

NOTE: I added the number "4" to clarify your set. I ignored your number "1" because all you are really saying there is something like, "You are not agreeing with me."

The list was a step-by-step guide to understanding the point, which once again I failed to make.

I'll try again.

You say religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" and say that therefore atheists are religious.

I was simply explaining what the dictionary says.

Quote from: organofcorti on January 18, 2016, 08:14:49 PM

The third part of your definition, the 'purpose" part, by definition cannot apply to atheists, and therefore your definition is wrong.

First, it is not my definition.

Yes it is. you made it:

Quote from: BADecker on January 17, 2016, 09:34:55 PM

Because of this, we can rightfully say that religion means, simply:

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a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

Quote from: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 08:57:25 PM

Second, anybody can make a statement.

Yes, and?

Quote from: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 08:57:25 PM

Third, you didn't give even one reference for your statement. At least I gave the dictionary reference.

It wasn't a statement, it was a logical argument. Your statement is the reference. Unless you'd like me tolecture you on the basics of logic?

Quote from: BADecker on January 18, 2016, 08:57:25 PM

Every time you try again, you are trying to get it right. Up until now, you have been having having a little trouble doing so.

Yes, but I think that has more to do with my audience.

Whether or not it is you or your audience, you barely (if at all) attempt to explain what you mean in a step-by-step process that would clarify the whole thing for everyone. Since you are not doing this, and since you won't provide references... anyone can say stuff. Just saying it doesn't make it true.