Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 01:29:24 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on January 19, 2016, 01:13:16 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 12:43:56 AM

Quote from: smooth on January 19, 2016, 12:36:54 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 12:34:12 AM

Speculators don't have time to research every caveat of decentralized technology.

I will be the first to tell you that if you want to to engage in short term speculation, none of these issues matter at all. All that matters is supply and demand over your holding period.

When I speak of crypto trading as being a zero sum game that is not a pejorative.

Give me network effect and market cap first, then I can hire all the developers I need to take out whatever geek coin you're working on. Tongue

No you can't. I can easily defeat you all by myself.

It sounds like you've already failed. The proclamation "I can easily defeat you all by myself" eludes to the fact that you will not allow members of the cryptocurrency community to get involved (whether it be mining or whatever) with your cryptocurrency. That doesn't sound like a cryptocurrency at all and is by far more centralized than you are claiming Bitshares to be. Unless you are giving any free people the ability to participate willingly, then I guess your statement would just be wrong.

I can see my obfuscation strategy is working well.

Perhaps you would contemplate that I not as clueless as you think I am.

Of course everyone here will be involved (if my plans succeed), but not the way it has been done up to now. I certainly won't be selling them any ICO nor providing them a way to obtain coins from mining.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 01:29:24 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on January 19, 2016, 01:13:16 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 12:43:56 AM

Aeon has literally no chance at success because it is not a complete package. Many coins are better than Bitcoin, yet most will go the same way of copy and paste / pump and dump coins.

Ditto Bitshares, Dash, Ethereum, OBITS, etc.

There is nothing in Altcoin space that has any chance right now.

But who are we to tell them that? They might have something up their sleeve or who knows maybe their technology gets adopted for another purpose and smooth gets awarded a lucrative contract.

You will find out soon enough that making a successful cryptocurrency is hard work.

I know that. Did you ignore what I wrote upthread, "But one dev does not a global coin make.".

My point above is that you can't create any great innovation for a crypto coin, because you lack the technological and economics depth and breadth. You couldn't lead the devs. Whereas I can. I am saying I can beat what ever you could do even with a lot of money, all by myself. But I am not saying I can create a successful coin all by myself. I might (just maybe but not good odds) be able to launch something by myself, if I cut some corners along the way. But I will surely need help asap if it is growing usership.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 01:29:24 AM

You are certain that you will crush the peasants, but it may not be you that's doing the crushing and you may come to find out that you were just a peasant all along. It is why I don't own more than 6% of my crypto portfolio in any one certain alt coin.

The peasants are whom I intend to help, not crush. You are the one who started off this discussion by being so boastful about how you (without the technological depth) can go beat smooth, myself and other devs just because you will have enough money to fund your effort. That is ludicrous. Any experienced software developer knows you can't lead if you don't understand the technology. And if you hire a CTO, the problem is you can't communicate effectively to the CTO and too much will be lost in the translation. This is known as the Mythical Man Month.

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 19, 2016, 01:29:24 AM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on January 19, 2016, 01:13:16 AM

We are laying down experimental foundations at this time.

That is why I think we devs need to be more friendly with each other. And the speculators need to stop creating these wars and pitting us devs against each other in time wasting political discord. If speculators would stop putting 5% of the networth into altcoins, this place might be a lot more cooperative instead of combative.

You fuel the fire with every post and this statement is hypocritical. What sane developers that are already involved with the cryptocurrency world would ever work with you? You've say derogatory things about them and all of their projects which they've worked hard on for years. You fuel the combativeness by proclaiming that you are never wrong, you are the best, you've been doing this since we were born, that coin is going to die, the developers of this coin are scammers, that coin doesn't solve any problems, I've already beaten you, etc.

I try to state only facts. Any developer who hates facts is not a developer I would want to work with. If another developer stated some facts about my work, then I would endeavor to fix the problems and respect that developer for his effort and expertise.

So thus only the best developers will work with me. And the other ones who have problems with objectivity will not work with me.

But any way, I don't think it works that way at all. If someone creates something that is a revolution, then everyone has an incentive. If not revolutionary, then it is a big yawn any way.