Quote from: Xiaoxiao on January 21, 2016, 10:57:26 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on January 21, 2016, 07:58:42 PM

WTF?

I just explained one of many examples, in detail, of how Betcoin stole 10+Bitcoin and then just ignored whoever asked them about it until eventually they stopped asking (except me).

You are pulling the same scummy BS as Betcoin ignoring the serious issues by spamming your thread to bury posts like this one.

Businesses (such as Betcoin) have the right to change its terms without notice. Just take a look at the PokerStars brand and the changes they've made.... With that said what management did was probably not the best thing for public relations (you're a prime example of that). However, considering how low the rake was before AND how much rewards players got, changes were inevitable and needed to be done. Right now everything is transparent and I don't see what the problem is.

What would you like them to do? Spend 200 hours going through old records and refunding 300 players with a measely .02-10 mbtc each? And then spend another 200 hours going through records and deducting .2 - 10 mbtc's from those that were overpaid with rewards? It's not worth it to everyone and probably isn't even attainable.

Did you read more than 1 sentence of what I wrote?

From your answer it seems like you skimmed through it and then just assumed I was because they increased the rake.

Are you implying that they raised the rake intentionally 3 weeks before ever mentioning it to the players?

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Businesses (such as Betcoin) have the right to change its terms without notice. Just take a look at the PokerStars brand and the changes they've made....

The players that are are criticizing pokerstars from a ethical standpoint are claiming it was unethical for PokerStars to only give notice of the increase in November of the changes scheduled for Jan 1.

Betcoin admitted it was a mistake.

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What would you like them to do? Spend 200 hours going through old records and refunding 300 players with a measely .02-10 mbtc each? And then spend another 200 hours going through records and deducting .2 - 10 mbtc's from those that were overpaid with rewards? It's not worth it to everyone and probably isn't even attainable.

If I had access to their database of hands, I could probably have complete list of who is owed what within 3 hours.

Betcoin probably has no clue how to do this since theyve never had the need to learn how to read a hand history or use tracking software so it would take them longer, it's still their responsibility though. In the past they've always just pick a number out of the air when they need to.

Your suggestion that they spend 200 hours on 300 players then another 200 hours refunding players who had less than 10 mbtc taken from them doesn't really make that much sense.

They should spend as long as it takes to make sure all of their players receive the entire refund they are entitled to.

PokerStars doesn't collect more rake than they advertise. If they accidentally did, they would return it immediately with a sincere apology.

In November they announced the rake would be increasing in January.

In January they increased it.

Do you understand how that's different from what BetCoin did?