Quote from: hilariousandco on January 24, 2016, 06:46:06 PM

Quote from: whywefight on January 24, 2016, 05:58:33 PM

like i asked in my pms to you, this basicly mean staff will not do anything about it if people start to trade obvious realted CP stuff

No, it really doesn't and comparing child pornography to a hacked or shared account is ridiculous as is complaining that allowing such sales on a mere forum is going to tarnish the entire currency. You can just as easily buy these accounts with Paypal or whatever on other forums but I guess it's down to whether theymos wants the activity here and that's up to him but needs to be clarified.

Quote from: whywefight on January 24, 2016, 05:58:33 PM

beacause "no one can determine if it is a scam or illegal somewhere on the globe"? come on guys, thats just a lame excuse.

It has long been the rule that staff do not moderate scams or potential ones so I don't know why this is such a pressing issue for you but I'm more concerned about consistency. If it's deemed that we should remove them then I will but there needs to be consensus about what sort of threads get removed or not and staff all need to be on the same page whether we like the rule or not as we can't have one or two staff members deciding they don't like certain threads and removing the little amount they can whilst others ignore them and go by the existing rules. It just causes more problems and issues otherwise (just look at the threads we've already had in Meta today and the numerous people who have been complaining to me via PMs because they've had their threads removed whilst others haven't).

Quote from: whywefight on January 24, 2016, 05:58:33 PM

again, 100% of the sellers are not BiPolarBob and while typing this you knew exactly there is a huge difference between him and those offers.

They might not be bipolarbob but people were complaining his deals were too good to be true and must be illegal but it looks like they weren't so do we trash those type of threads as well or do you just have issue with people selling accounts that are likely hacked or shared ? If so, why? Do we disallow anyone selling various giftcodes with discounts too? A lot might be carded or obtained nefariously but many others won't be but how can we tell? And that's why it's not always black and white and why we generally leave scams alone but if the admins want to change or amend the rules then I'm open to it but all the mods need to follow the rules set out currently as it's going to be messy otherwise.

1) its i not ridiculous, illeagal stays illegal, paint it blue or red, still illegal. its that simple. Like i said, i am not complaining about illegal activitys going on on darknet webistes or at habbo, i am talking about those happening here. Wrong is wrong, thats always the way it has been.

2) I dont complaining about obvious scams, i do about obvious illegal activitys like selling hacked or carded stuff. If scamming isnt a real problem around here why do we have a section for accusations of it?

3) I have an issue with it because its falling back on this entire community. Just because something wrong is ongoing for a long time its a reson to allow it happen in the future? I have a problem seeing trades ongoing where seller put in hacked, carded and stolen stuff. Your mind would probably change if one of the accounts you own gets sold somewhere online putting you into deep shit. Its not a question of moral its just about wrong and right. Two options: the forum allows illegal stuff and we all dont care or it does not. Why always hiding in the grey area? Its to easy to hide behind the bipolarbob example...

4) Simple questions, try to reply honestly. Try to use just yes or no:

Do you think a 3$ lifetime netflix acc is legal?
Do you think an acc gen granting access to 70 sites is legal?
Do you think selling an item 80% of the regular price is legit?

If i have something here i dont need but i need money urgent, i might sell it off cheap because i am in need. But no one has hundreds off accounts around for the same sites. This cant be legit. Even if you are a reseller. Hiding behind a logic of: yes that might be possible, it has always been that way is just same lame, lazy bullshit excuse.

Well, i say it again: Staff and administration should talk about this and bring a clear statement on it. If the operators of this site decide they are okay with it, i can just stop visiting that sections or just leave the forum. Until its official, i can just try to change it.

Ofc, this is all just imho.