Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 27, 2016, 01:38:23 AM

Quote from: sgbett on January 27, 2016, 01:03:04 AM

Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 26, 2016, 10:44:53 PM

Quote from: Zarathustra on January 26, 2016, 09:13:15 PM

Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 26, 2016, 04:18:22 PM

Quote from: VeritasSapere on January 26, 2016, 04:03:30 PM

the tide is turning.

Only in your mind.

In reality, the community has rejected XT, Unlimited, and now "Classic". Your move.

Forget it. You'll get a hard fork to 2 MB this year.

Still using the Goebbels approach, Zara? ("repeat the lie so often that it becomes the truth")

* is #REKT

Keep at it; not long now

No, bett.

*that-threatens-bitcoin is #REKT. Inherently.

That's another one from the Goebbels school, eh bett? Exaggerate your adversary's position out of all recognition... And I always thought you occupied the reasonable-middle-ground? Wink

I'm still here in the middle - perhaps you are so far off to one side that the middle doesn't look like the middle anymore! Wink

The 'that-threatens-bitcoin' was implicit in my asterisk, because when people post these rekt statements they are opinions. I'd go further and say 'that-threatens-what-i-think-bitcoin-is'

But really that's missing the point. Which is that regardless of what someone thinks bitcoin is, posting about how everything that doesn't fit their view is automatically rekt is hyperbole.

These people post in such a way to suggest they think they *know* the future, when in fact that is impossible, because the future is uncertain. A statement in which someone claims to know the future is by definition a lie.

Posting that statement repeatedly is exactly what you described when you said "repeat the lie so often that it becomes the truth"

You could accuse me of the same thing "Keep at it; not long now" could allude to me thinking that one particular outcome is foregone conclusion, but it could also just be that I think that a resolution either way could be coming soon. The crowd will decide what they decide Wink

I think that somewhat similarly you are very careful about what you post. I think you recognise that publicly stating extreme views only alienates the undecided. Adam back does great job of that too and as a result I've spent a lot more mind time on understanding his point of view. Its tricky though because although nobody will acknowledge it (because that weakens the credibility - so in doing so I am taking that hit), the reality is that sometimes charged debates (such as blocksize limit) become about debating and the relative merits of the positions can sometimes play second fiddle to this. In that respect Back is a huge asset for the small block camp, because he does know how to play that game. Small wonder he is in the position he is in!

You can all now go ahead and pretend I'm crazy for suggesting that is the case (and in doing so confirm it to be true) Wink

Anyway thats kind of a meta argument, what I was getting to is that here:

Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 26, 2016, 04:18:22 PM

In reality, the community has rejected XT, Unlimited, and now "Classic". Your move.

I think you dropped the ball. You're stating the community has rejected all three of the alternatives, admittedly XT is not very popular and so you could argue it has been 'rejected' (for now).

Unlimited - its out there right now its really only early days, but you are stating that it has been rejected? I'd say we are in opinion territory here.

Classic - its not even been released yet. So here you cannot possibly say it has been rejected by the community, but you have. The "In reality" makes it really hard for you to argue that you weren't presenting this as fact.

So whilst you haven't specifically said "classic is #rekt", you kinda have. Which puts you amongst the ice'n'brgs and hdbuck's of the thread, and I'm definitely not exaggerating their position!