Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM

Quote from: SwingDev on January 29, 2016, 12:53:12 AM

Quote from: ABitNut on January 29, 2016, 12:09:16 AM

So the conclusion is that both of you failed to compromise. That is sad indeed; it means you both lost fully where you had a change to both reduce your losses.

I suggest locking the relevant topics as this issue seems over.

I offered to work towards helping him cover his loss as I was able to. I actually intented to ask him for a public addy where I could slowly try to cover his loss. I was hoping to try to cover it in full if I was able. Even my community was looking to help in this. I am unable to pay him up front and refusing to return the account unless I do is just greedy.

My offer is still open for now which i feel is generous and fair at this point. Please do not close this thread. A4l still has a chance to change his mind. If he does not within a reasonable amount of time I would like a place to publicly close and end my offer. Admins can lock the other threads If they want.

I'm not looking to have him hang my offer over my head a year from now.

At this point I've accepted the loss and plan to work on building the rep of this account since it seems I won't be able to correct murderouskirk.

Hi

So if Swingdev is reading this, i would ask that you please answer my questions here.

1) Why the delay in reporting this hack? Why not open a scam accusation straight after?

2) When did you realise it was hacked? How do you think they hacked the account? What security where you using? was it phishing/malware/keylogger?

3) Please explain if i give the account back... you say there may be some sort of payment after ? Within what time frame? How much? do you mean if your swing coin increases in price you will give some of this profit to me?

4) How do you respond to abitnut's point that there is no proof that it was hacked? Is it true that you Swingdev and marcos the hacker could be the same person?

Anyway i hope we can FINALLY SORT THIS OUT as it has been dragging on TOO LONG.

Please post a reply on this thread, with your answers

Thanks
Altcoin4life

Dude.. please.. just end this. Return the account or don't. I've been waking up and going to sleep stressed about my account for almost two weeks now. Stop coming back with more repeat questions just decide and let me know.

You can say yes, you can say no. At this point I just want you to make up your mind and stop stringing me along like a bad date. Every time I start to get hopeful you come back with more delays and questions. I've honestly like 90% given up at this rate.

If these answers are really that important for me to answer over again so you can decide then fine. Here it is again.

Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM

1) Why the delay in reporting this hack? Why not open a scam accusation straight after?

Quote from: SwingDev on January 27, 2016, 07:49:33 AM

Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 26, 2016, 04:25:31 PM

What do you think about his reason for not reporting the hacked account immediately? why did he not post a scam accusation or hacked report in meta?

Quote from: mexxer-2 on January 26, 2016, 08:23:54 PM

Well just stating a possibility, he might have not known of the steps to recover the account

Correct. I only knew about signing with Theymos (which i got even that wrong as posted above). I've only heard bad things about that process not working at all so i was hesitant and hoped Altcoin4life would be kind enough to return it. I was also pretty sure I couldn't sign anything at the start. I figured it was worth talking to him as my first shot because he has a positively repped profile. I didn't consider writing a scam report. My account was stolen, I was not scammed. The thought didn't cross my mind till it was mentioned in these threads.

Plus.. you know.. you asked me to keep the situation contained to PM's in your very first message to me.

Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM

2) When did you realise it was hacked? How do you think they hacked the account? What security where you using? was it phishing/malware/keylogger?

I'm not going to bother digging for a quote on this one. You already know the answer to this. I've stated repeatedly I didn't realize till I made this account. Just check the date of my first post if you want to know.

I've also stated that I do not know how they got the account. I wish I did. Soon as I found out I went and blew my money on new HD's to remove as much lingering malware risk as possible. There were no signs that my machine has been infected. I've been going around adding 2fa to every email and other account possible along with changing passwords and have not found any trail yet. I wish I knew man

Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM

3) Please explain if i give the account back... you say there may be some sort of payment after ? Within what time frame? How much? do you mean if your swing coin increases in price you will give some of this profit to me?

I feel I've made this pretty clear but I'll spell it out.

No time frame. Completely at my leisure as I manage to get more BTC. Right now I have ~~0.1~~ (Sorry that was an error. I just checked and I have .011 BTC) to trade with. The rest of my portfolio is invested in my altcoin Swing and I'm extremely hesitant to sell on my holders at laughably low prices for an alt with less than 700k coins in circulation to get an account back when I can use this one just as easily. If I'm able to focus on swing and increase its value (which I'm obviously incentivised to do) you will end up with some BTC as thanks.

Though to be frank the longer this drags on and the more you stress me out the less generous and timely I'm starting to feel.

If you provide a unique bitcoin address everyone can see what gets sent your way. You'll end up with somewhere between 0 and 0.1612 BTC (0.16 being what you were owed and more than what you lost) with my reputation being reflected on by the amount and time of payment(s).

I'm not giving you a date so you can tell me I've "defaulted" on my own account or something.

The reality is I'm poor and you're asking me to cover much more than I have free in BTC or am willing to spend buying BTC.

You can take the offer and potentially get something next time my portfolio grows, or keep my account and get no BTC from me ever.

Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM

4) How do you respond to abitnut's point that there is no proof that it was hacked?

I mean he's correct there is no proof. I don't know how my account was taken all I know is you have it now and hunches as to how it was taken.

Quote from: Altcoin4life on January 29, 2016, 05:40:31 AM

5)Is it true that you Swingdev and marcos the hacker could be the same person?

How about you try to put together a scam report that makes sense of why I would throw away three years worth of reputation building and the dev position of my own cryptocurrency (technically three if you count swaps, Greed -> Greed Evolved -> Swing) for only 0.13 BTC. Then I might dignify that accusation with a proper response.

And I honestly do apologize if I've been coming off as irritated and stressed at you during this situation. It's the result of me actually being pretty irritated and stressed at trying to get my dev account back for two weeks straight with literally zero word from the admins I've contacted for help and provided all the necessary proof to. Surely you can understand this. I've tried to be as polite and professional as I can muster in this situation.