Quote from: Solarminer on January 28, 2016, 04:55:42 AM

Quote from: emitkirby on January 28, 2016, 04:03:27 AM

Quote from: oaxaca on January 28, 2016, 03:39:24 AM

Quote from: emitkirby on January 28, 2016, 03:23:56 AM

If you want to create a business off the back of DASH do it with your own funding and your own steam.

Don't lose sight of what DASH is trying to achieve. It is not ready for the type of adoption you are asking funding for. Further more it's not the kind of growth you want.

It should not be the focus of DASH to figure out how to make it mainstream. it should be the focus of DASH to design a product that others want to make mainstream..

With all due respect, that's what this proposal IS trying to do. The goal is to create open source software that can be used by any retail application. Vending, gas pumps, mom and pop stores, chain stores, online retail. ALL RETAIL. The goal of this project is not to make money selling soda.

The focus of dash should be on Dash. If Dash focuses its efforts on development and creating a solid baseline / structure. Other companies will develop around Dash and create businesses that can utilise the technology.

The proposal feels like throwing money at people for the sake of throwing money at people.
If you walked into an office and said "give me money because I'll use it.. Honestly"

There is no company in the world that works that way.

I understand the requirement to create a decentralised project. Please do not take offence to this.

None of you are qualified to run / expand a company.

I am doing this because I want an option to buy things with my Dash. I own a solar company and do pretty well. I am not trying to collect an income with this project. This is merely a way to give back to Dash with a project that I believe will make it exponentially better. Camosoul also owns a business. We know how to make projects succeed even with short time frames or difficult challenges.

We are planning to allocate a lot of the funds to developers. We know the wallets will take time to add features, we will be asking for a lot of man-hours. The software to get the backends to work correctly isn't easy. We will also be working with server platforms and may need assistance from, likely, an outside party to get shopping carts to work correctly. We need to pay the people that do the work, and that isn't free. Each product will have unique challenges and we may need to seek outside help pay them for their time. We will also have the cost of the products we will be converting/building and parts needed to test properly.

We are charting new territory. I would like to say that we know how to do all this already and here is our cost breakdown, but we don't. We will learn as we go. This is where the excitement begins.

Most investors risk their funds to have a chance at a big win. This proposal is an opportunity that you don't even have to risk funds since they will be lost anyway. Why not put them to a good use? Pay our developers and expand the Dash Ecosystem.

If you think this project is ambitious, look at the Dash N Drink. We refurbished and designed IX detection with bip32 deposits with a changing QR code, along with IX on three mobile wallets, and an awesome website in about a month. It was also said to be impossible when announced. We did it. (moocowmoo deserves a ton of credit for all the help with the software, and wallet developers fulltimegeek, quantumexplorer, hashengineering deserve praise too, along with Raptor 3d, thedashguy website, oaxaca funding) Rather than push through a project as fast as possible and keep almost all these guys(plus Camo and I) up to 4am each night, this one will be done one step at a time. I feel like we took advantage of all the people that helped us on the Dash N Drink, and it isn't fair to set deadlines that may not be reasonable.

Thank you for your reply.

You are designing your business model around DASH. Thats a great thing, however it isn't the DASH ecosystem which should pay and fund your learning curve.
The work you did on the vending machine was great, no one can take that from you. That doesn't give you the right to be funded to learn how to grow your business further.

If you want to develop systems that evolve the DASH ecosystem, Good luck to you.

DASH should not be responsible for the cost of such a project.