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While I totally applaud the effort, no one will use these vending machines with Dash. They may use the blockchain and Apple Pay or NFC, but never Dash. Why? 'Cos you have to buy Dash to spend Dash.

The driver here is the merchant, not the customer. The customer can simply use apple pay attached to a credit card because they don't see a cost associated with that. The Merchant on the other hand, sees 3-5% bank fees, chargebacks, disputes, delays in getting funds from the bank. DASH solves those problems for the Merchant.

It does, but the driver can only drive if there is an engine, and in this case that's the consumer.

A consumer will only consume if there is a necessity, or a problem solved.

If the merchant can sell a soda cheap enough for the hassle of the consumer to go out and buy Dash, bingo. Unfortunately, that is impossible right now. The actual Point of Sale makes it cheaper, but down the chain he'll have to convert to FIAT to keep his business alive. Add volatility, and the merchant is now a gambler. That is why BitPay et al. exist.

It's not viable for either at this moment. That, unfortunately, is the cold truth.

Why would anybody use email when we have a perfectly good postal system?

Why would anybody drive in an automobile when we have perfectly good horses?

Email is thousands of times faster, and free, and simple to use.

Cars are hundreds of times faster and easier to maintain.

Crypto-currency saves money on fees and takes control away from centralized banks and (currently) is complicated as hell to understand and use.

...there's really no comparison. The advantages aren't nearly as compelling.

Exactly. Dash has many benefits over fiat, but not when it comes to simplicity and (I believe the BIGGEST ISSUE IN CRYPTO) difficulty to obtain the currency. If there was a proposal that we could fund that would streamline the conversion of fiat to DASH I would LOVE to support it. That's the biggest problem in crypto. Dash has been able to be the first resolve many major issues with bitcoin, except this one.

Until it is easy for people to obtain Dash, it will not be used widely. Core team should focus on development, we as a community should try to find a solution to this problem.

Most people have smart phones (except me and mine) and they're using them at Walmart. Walmart and others are integrating such systems because they know it's the future. Did you see how easy it was to pay the vending machine? Honestly, I think Evolution is for online purchases, I don't think it'll do much for face to face purchases which are already extremely easy.

How are customers going to obtain the DASH? The vending machine proof of concept included giving people dash via a paper wallet. Selling (converting) currency from fiat to DASH adds significant complexity. Converting crypto to fiat is easy. We NEED the other way around to be easy as well. That is the most glaring deficiency we have right now as a currency.