Quote from: creativex on December 01, 2012, 09:06:59 PM

Quote from: Inaba on December 01, 2012, 08:53:22 PM

Yeah, and BFL will still be shipping before bASIC. As for cheaper per G/h, good luck with that, but you already knew that BFL would match competitive offerings. Enjoy your 200w piece o' junk that is obsolete before it even ships! Oh, tell me again how much power or even what kind of power connector bASIC is going to be using? Do you get a PSU with your unit? No? You mean you have to BUY a PSU, cables, etc...? Really? So I guess that $1069.00 isn't really the REAL cost of running a bASIC is it? Yay for hidden costs! At least BFL is up front and honest about the cost of a unit.

I hope for the sake of BFL customers that turns out to be true...unlike nearly everything else you've said with regard to BFL shipping dates.

Since when is BFL up front or honest about anything? If you guys had told everyone in September that October shipping was a fairy tale, and the reality was a "fuzzy" hopefully maybe January shipping date, how many would've cancelled then? Now that's some HUGE hidden cost. I have a dozen PSUs on hand thanks, not worried about it, but I appreciate your concern.

Actually, most GPU miner would. So the argument falls flat on it's face for those types of customers.

Quote from: creativex on December 01, 2012, 09:06:59 PM

Perhaps your concern would be better utilized getting your own very late product out the door? Oh that's right you said January all along...cept when you didn't. Roll Eyes

First they said they would put their shipping dates first rather than compete with the new hash rate for the bASIC device (60Gh/s Vs 72Gh/s).

Then promptly, they released information that they would not receive their first batch until Mid December. Then revised the revision again to make it sometime in January. (A full 30 day delay)

Now we have a BFL representative that says their chips were not ready due to the adding of clock buffers. Recently implemented to reduce noise on the chip as well as aid in the overclocking of the chip.

Following on the heels of an announcement that they will be revising their chips packaging to include metal rather than plastic components.

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What does this spell out to you?

It spells out to me that shipping is not their first priority.
It spells out to me that revising their hardware for competitive sake (at the cost of time) is their first priority. Counter-intuitive to what the two BFL representatives stated not more than a few days ago.

Hence, this is why the framing of the information....seems a bit off.

If someone were polite enough to ask a BFL representative if they were indeed changing their chip to a metal packaging on their FIRST revision, then that would clearly indicate their chip is still being revised and that even the January date is an optimistic sign.

Later on, if this speculation is spot on, they will release information that thier chip is actually not 60Gh/s but something higher. (Probably at the cost of more electrical juice, a beefier power adapter and a few months time.)

Keep in mind, if they are having a hard time sourcing High AMP wall adapters...I can only imagine how much harder it will be if this speculation is spot on.