Quote from: sgbett on January 30, 2016, 12:38:37 AM

Like bitcoin is free to use! Wink

Quote from: https://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper.pdf

8.5 Fees
Lightning Network fees, which differ from blockchain fees, are paid directly between participants within the channel. The fees pay for the time-value of money for consuming the channel for a determined maximum period of time, and for counterparty risk of non-communication.

As previously said LN is free, so free as Bitcoin. If any of you guys had realk skills you could develop your own version of LN and make that the official one, but unfortunately you don't.

Quote from: mikewirth on January 30, 2016, 08:39:07 AM

Do you know why the paragraph is titled: '8.5 Fees'? Because in the future they will just make the amendment '8.51 Additional Fees' and lay down a fair use price to be paid to Blockstream. Blockstream is privatizing Bitcoin via a sneaky run around. Their make excuses all day why 2MB is dangerous - when in fact 8GB probably isn't. They are merely creating a need for their Lighting Network.

No. Stop posting nonsense. This is not going to happen. LN is not "theirs", sidechains are. I'm getting tired of the nonsense from shills.

Quote from: steeev on January 29, 2016, 08:44:54 PM

here's an imgur set of screenshots of adam back calling out toomim on the Bitcoin slack a few days ago - toomim literally runs away from the exchange as adam starkly highlights toomim's lack of ability - in front of other devs...
https://imgur.com/gallery/wbsxJ

Essentially if you remove Garzik and Gavin from the Classic team you're left with a group of newbies that have no idea what they're doing.