Quote from: barabbas on February 01, 2016, 05:06:51 AM

you can already set up your home or office's temperature from any internet connected device at no cost.

Still, the world largest companies put huge amount of effort and resources into the standardization process of W3C and generally speaking into research and development to create better, safer, more optimal and usable solutions. It's called innovation. That's the very reason you can drive car instead of travelling by riding a horse, your car consumes 5 L petrol instead of 15 L on 100 km which was the case 30 yeas ago or you are using a software on your PC that is more capable and user friendly than a DOS console.

Quote from: barabbas on February 01, 2016, 05:06:51 AM

The experience of loser "enterprises" that didn't attract ONE SINGLE INVESTOR as the case of tzapardi is?

That is not true, but I understand you are not overly worried about facts - you never were if such facts don't support your agenda. His company Zovolt which helps for the Gadgetnet developers backed by 110 investors via their first round of founding. So suddenly does the large amount of investors makes tzpardi a good coder? Contradictory what you said his business has many investor, so he must be a very good coder then using your absurd logic of what makes one a good coder. The details about the 110 investors are available in the public company register. Again, you are wrong and spreading and forming opinion based on information which is not true. Probably you do it not because what users believe about you that you are just a poisonous troll, but I think you do from an incorrect opinion because you have no idea what you are talking about - like in the case of W3C - , but regardless of the origin of your incorrect information, the result is that you are wrong again.

Quote from: barabbas on February 01, 2016, 05:06:51 AM

But even if you get Buterin, you have to have an idea to direct him to what to code, whats the final journey.

That's quite true and the Gadgetnet developers is having a vision about the final journey: decentralized Internet of Things system. The developers explained to us what type of system and business requirements such system addresses. More importantly many large, TOP 100 tech firms subscribe to the decentralized IoT concept and many more will (just like large corporations start to subscribe to the block chain concept by realising the business benefits of block chain). I don't explain the benefits of a decentralized IoT system to you because you don't care about facts such as why scalability and high availability are important and very expensive problems in enterprise computing as well as you simply don't comprehend these technical details.

Quote from: barabbas on February 01, 2016, 05:06:51 AM

And i guarantee you no useful advance of any kind, tech or otherwise, will ever come from either the losers at gadget net.

Oh dear ... I explained to you above, many open source material came already from Gadgetnet at https://github.com/w3c/web-of-things-framework and several TOP 100 tech firms find that already useful (many times more achievement what 99% of crypto projects will ever achieve, apart from Bitcoin of course because Satoshi's block chain concept is being adopted by large corporations). You really don't care about facts, do you?

Quote from: barabbas on February 01, 2016, 05:06:51 AM

Case rested.

Fine. I am passionate about certain technologies like Bitcoin, Skycoin, Ethereum and Gadgetnet and argue about them all over the places. Please note, Gadgetnet is not selling coins nor selling shares nor plan to do any of those in this platform, they don't even will list their coin on any exchanges. They plan to make money and create market for Gadgetcoin (thought that is not priority at all) by working with many of the TOP 100 firms. So this is not a sales thread, but it's good we discuss what the project aims to achieve and how realistic those goals are (as I stated above, the chance for a small startup to succeed is very little in the difficult field of IoT, but at least they have a more or less realistic plan).