Quote from: FirstAscent on December 03, 2012, 05:30:26 PM

Quote from: myrkul on December 03, 2012, 05:22:53 PM

Quote from: FirstAscent on December 03, 2012, 05:16:52 PM

Quote from: myrkul on December 03, 2012, 05:10:12 PM

Quote from: Dalkore on December 03, 2012, 04:28:14 PM

Last time I checked, we have only one pie called planet earth and some of it is renewable and some of it is not. So just there is a valid discussion about how the pie is divided.

Resources are limited (assuming we stay on earth - not a valid assumption). Wealth is not, because wealth (value of possessions) is subjective, because value is subjective. If you have a car, and want a painting, and I have a painting, and want a car, when we trade, I am getting something I value more than what I am giving up, and you are getting something that you value more than what you are giving up. When the trade is completed, we are both wealthier than when we started. Wealth is created by free trade, and destroyed by aggression - either directly, by damaging or destroying things of value, or subjectively, by forcing someone to give up something they value more for something they value less.

Which explains why socialist regimes impoverish their peoples.

You don't understand everything. http://capitalinstitute.org/blog/growth-and-free-trade-brain-dead-dogmas-still-kicking-hard

What makes you think I was talking about world economy?

Because Rassah, who started this thread, recently made some comments related to tariffs and overseas jobs in which the most recent discussion occurring right now has now built upon. That's why.

No, this discussion was built on this:

Quote from: Dalkore on December 03, 2012, 04:28:14 PM

Quote from: Rassah on December 03, 2012, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: myrkul on December 02, 2012, 07:21:59 AM

The classic battle between the parasites and the productive, yes.

Actually, while discussing this, I remembered that there is one more level to this. It's the classic battle between the parasites and the productive, which stems from the battle between the Marxists who think the pie is only so big, and capitalists who think the pie can expand.

Last time I checked, we have only one pie called planet earth and some of it is renewable and some of it is not. So just there is a valid discussion about how the pie is divided.

Resources are limited. Wealth is not.

Quote from: FirstAscent on December 03, 2012, 05:30:26 PM

And furthermore, an outgrowth of the discussion relates to the planet's resources. Pretty simple if you pay attention.

Yes, an outgrowth of the discussion. A tangent. The same tangent, I'll add, that you always go on. Go back to your movies. I'm done discussing this with you.