Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

I wouldn't invest in something that the dev doesn't invest in himself.

cool. well i am a trustworthy dev.
(the only trust issues anyone has accused me of has been those you created with no basis Cheesy

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so my new shitcoin will have 99% premine, and i will be investing real money heavily into this.
you can trust me, because whilst the process will not be clear where the money actually comes from or goes to.
the new blockchain will show me with mad coinz.
therefore you can trust me

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

If everyone gets the same benefit, isn't that the opposite of advantage?

no.
that's because you have the advantage. no-one else.

just because you keep saying there is none, does not change the fact.
just because you feel you're not taking advantage does not change the fact.
you maybe 100% legit and doing this with the purest intentions and divine guidance, doesn't change the fact.

what i keep getting from you, is that because you're not being dodgy, therefore there is no possible perception of dodgyness.

what i continue to say, is that there is an easily perceived possible dodgyness in the process.

short story : or what seems to be happening in this discussion

bumbacoin : hey i saw a magican sawing a woman in half.
runpaint : no it's not possible that you thought you saw it, because he didnt, and the objective truth makes subjective perspective impossible
bumbacoin : it truly looked like a magician sawing a woman in half.
runpaint : no it's not possible that you thought you saw it, because he didnt, and the objective truth makes subjective perspective impossible
bumbacoin : but that's the whole point of illusion
runpaint : no it's not possible that you thought you saw it, because he didnt, and the objective truth makes subjective perspective impossible
bumbacoin : haha, i enjoyed watching it and i'm going again tomorrow
runpaint: good luck with that. you must be a bit dim to have a subjective perspective. meanwhile, i really enjoy chocolate ice-cream, would you like some?
bumbacoin : no, i;ll have vanilla
runpaint : that's not possible, i like chocolate ice cream.
bumbacoin : i like vanilla ice cream
runpaint : that's not possible, i like chocolate ice cream.
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Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

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this is what it looked like with ACP, where it seemed you bought quantities of coin before it was officially announced,

When did we start buying ACP? Please, tell me.

How many other coins did we start buying to secure quantity, that we ran nodes for, that we mined their chains, that didn't end up working out?

i'm sorry, i've added in bold how the statment should have been worded. (see that, that's how you admit mistakes)

you'll need to give those particular answers.
they could be very enlightening, especially your second comment.
if you answered truthfully

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

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and below the final swap ratio.

So now we have to pay MORE than the swap ratio? Paying ACP holders up to 10 times the market rate for their coins isn't enough?

sometimes i wonder if you're being deliberately obtuse.
i figure you just go through cherrypicking phrases then taking them out of context and acting all surprised.

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

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have you considered the problem of the coin team owning so many coins

I don't know what you are calling "the problem", but the main problem is that we're spending all our own money.

i'm not trying to be rude. but this seems to be a big flag as to your naivety.

noob1: hi, i'm going to invest in a coin where the coin devs hold the vast majority of that coin
cynicaltrader1: you should be concerned that the devs will dump their vast holdings without warning
noob1: oh, but i read the ANN and the devs say they're honest, it looks like a good coin
troll1: fancy that, a self-proclaimed honest dev. i'd go all in if i were you
cynicaltrader1: i wouldn't go near that coin. but i might keep an eye on their pre-pump plans

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

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and do you have a plan to spread the distribution ratios?

Other than forcing people to buy BARR, the best plan is probably to keep doing what we're doing until more people take notice.

honestly. good luck

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

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but the other point, is that according to your plan, there will be less Barr distributed for later coin swaps. - resulting in a lower swap ratio

But you can't worry that we're not paying enough for coins and also that we're paying too much for coins at the same time.

If we set the exchange rate high, you say we're benefiting ourselves.
If we set the exchange rate lower, you say we're benefiting ourselves.

yes, you can't lose

such honest advantage.

and not at the same time. that was explained earlier
first , high to benefit yourself with shitcoins you hold
then once you're out
second, low to benefit your current holdings in Barr by reducing Barr inflation.

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

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this will result in you receiving a far better swap ratio for the coins that you personally ownedand have swapped, than future others will for coins they own.

#2, if the swap isn't a good deal, they don't have to take it. Problem solved.

and your Barr holdings are not diluted as much. win for you.

Quote from: BARR_Official on February 08, 2016, 12:27:46 PM

BARR is the only cryptocurrency that doesn't create artificial value where none existed before.

All other coins create money from nothing, while BARR never issues a single coin unless an equivalent value is subtracted from an existing coin.

ACP was trading at 60 sats,
you swapped at 600 sats,
whether you like it or not, you artifically created that value, the process created artificial value.

and your statement is simplistic,
no crypto=currency creates artificial value, that'd be impossible, people who trade those coins create the artificial value.

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it might be advantageous to have the Barr_official user sign at the end of the post, so it's easy to differentiate between who's typing
- bumba