Quote from: Spendulus on February 08, 2016, 08:35:51 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 08, 2016, 05:47:57 PM

Quote from: craked5 on February 08, 2016, 09:01:55 AM

Sure the 10 years old kid with his magnum, that would have totally helped him xD

Dude don't try to promote gun freedom everywhere! It has its uses, but it's not perfect ^^

Quote from: Ernstew on February 08, 2016, 10:00:58 AM

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

Quote from: m0gliE on February 08, 2016, 09:56:00 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 08, 2016, 08:44:21 AM

Quote from: m0gliE on February 07, 2016, 11:37:29 PM

Problem being that you're wrong here.
It wouldn't make anyone think twice. Rape is not something thought and planned most of the time. Which means they don't THINK.

Well, castration is a good definitive solution though. Or death penalty/lifetime jail.
I don't think rape should be forgiven, ever.

Anyone else see the irony in a gun ban advocate calling for the death penalty for rapists? If only the victim had a gun to begin with, they wouldn't be raped and the rapist would still be alive and learn that it is not worth it after confronting an armed would-be victim. Of course this makes too much sense.

Better to let the rape happen and just execute people after, because after all guns are scary! I saw Scarface I know all about guns!

Anyone else is seeing the difference between saying that death or castration is a good definitive solution and advocating for legal creation of that solution?
And I don't see the link between gun freedom and death penalty, it has like NOTHING in common in fact, beside the fact that USA are fund of both.

Oh yeah it would have totally helped the 10 years old boy to have a gun with him!!! For sure it would have been really helpful!!! You clearly convinced me with such an argument Roll Eyes

I assumed people reading would have enough common sense to understand I was not advocating the little boy should have had a gun, and stating so is little more than a straw man logical fallacy designed to distract from my actual argument. I should have known better than to expect any common sense on this forum.

In reality I was drawing attention to the irony of some one demanding "protection" of life by banning guns, and being willing to allow other rapes (such as adult women) and then executing the assailant after the fact rather than imprisoning them or god forbid just stopping the attack by being armed in the first place, most likely leading to everyone living free and unviolated.

I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. You claim to want to protect life out of one side of your mouth while you allow the rape and execution of people with those same ideals out the other side of your mouth as a direct result of your anti-gun stance.

Quote from: The Pharmacist on February 08, 2016, 03:13:52 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on February 08, 2016, 04:47:51 AM

Quote from: The Pharmacist on February 08, 2016, 12:51:01 AM

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...?

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism. Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child. These things, while horrible, happen all the time. There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here. It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant. No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking. Got it. Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

Unfortunately, the matter of "little boys and Arab culture" is true. I don't think you mean "Arab culture," more like "middle eastern culture" perhaps.

RE bolded above, there is an actual historical case which occurred only about 20 miles from where I live. An 11 year old and 8 year old brothers were walking to school, and for unrelated reasons were carrying four of their Dad's rifles. They were set on by a band of six Indians. The 8 year old proceeded to load, and the 11 year old fired. These were single shot muskets, and at the end of this skirmish there were four dead Indians, one seriously wounded, and one that fled. The two boys proceeded to their school house. There is no record of their being marked as tardy.

A Calvary officer arrived some weeks later, and wrote the incident up and recorded it. Pre Civil War era, which would mean 1845+.

Maybe we are headed back to those times? Does not bother me. This incident is interesting because it shows perhaps how we train children to be "children."

Yes maybe my terminology was not correct, but it is difficult to be precise when the region has been in constant conflict for thousands of years and has so much displacement. As far as training children to be children, I agree completely. Observe the difference between parents that treat their children as developing adults as opposed to the ones who coddle their children constantly doing things for them they could do themselves, and observe the developmental differences. This coddling creates dependence that later develops into dependence on the government. Unfortunately the soviet based "educational" model currently deployed in the USA and elsewhere is not that. the soviet model also seeks to create a system of dependence on the government.

It is quite astounding what children are capable of if given the correct developmental environment. Not that it is the correct developmental environment, but I wonder if an armed child soldier in the Congo would have been so easily raped? I guess it is largely a matter of developmental acceleration for better or worse. History (and modern reality) shows us children can be just as capable as many so called adults.