Quote from: TwitchySeal on February 09, 2016, 07:09:05 AM

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on February 09, 2016, 12:24:55 AM

Quote from: wwwin on February 08, 2016, 11:41:34 PM

So about $4,000.00 divided amongst how many players?

I'm kind of just pulling this out of my ass here but if I had to guess I'd say probably fewer than 25 players would account for 70%+ of total overcharged rake. There are not a huge number of regs putting in volume.

It's also possible, 2 or 3 guys could be making up 70% of total overrake. Any HU Bum hunter could of easily put in 40+ hours at the mid-high HU Cash games over the course of 5 or 6 weeks. This would ad up to 5BTC + stolen from them.

I think attempting to pick a single number won't really be as meaningful as trying to determine a realistic range of what was taken.

The problem is that you are the only one doing anything about it and the people that were scammed don't do anything. I was not playing enough here at that time and less now, to get upset about very little money.

The problem people like you should be having is if Betcoin has screwed so many of it's members out of so many coins and have acted so shady and disrespectful in so many circumstances...doesn't it stand to reason that it'll happen to you as well? Seriously, every long term player has had problems with them where they have no payed, slow payed, lied, ignored, ect. The only people playing there today that were playing there 6 months ago are the people on the payroll or the people so broke that they have to beg for $5 stakes every day.

Also, anyone with half a brain has to admit that when multiple people publicly discuss how a site has lied/cheated it's players, the site says nothing, yet random 0 day old accounts show up to attack the people providing the proof...that's odd. That isn't the action of a site who has the player's long term best interests in mind.

You guys will call me a shill, or say I'm paid to post this. But it's not the case. I have been playing Betcoin since day 1 with little issue. Only issue I had was my own fault with a deposit.

I agree the rake thing sucked but they attempted to rectify the situation.

They are right, going threw 600,000 hands as was claimed would be next to impossible. I think they could of handled the situation different but what can you do? Leave and not come back or keep playing. The rake issue was fixed.

I don't think you're a shill. But analyzing 600k hands is far from impossible. If I had access to the database of hands, I doubt it would take longer than an hour or two to go establish how much is owed to each player with either PT4 or HEM2. If betcoin has nobody capable of doing the same, they should.

Also, I don't see any reasonable attempt made by betcoin to rectify the situation.

So if its max 2 hours, volunteer to do it and see what excuse they come up with...there is no private info in a PT4 or HEM2 database.