Quote from: Lutpin on February 16, 2016, 12:57:03 AM

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I would like to charge Lutpin with ruining people's trust scores with malicious, erroneous negative trust feedbacks.

This isn't a court, you don't "charge" someone.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

4 months ago, a few days I believe before Thanksgiving, US, I was relatively new to the forums, and I did not understand some concepts about scamming and reputation loans and all of that.
I made the mistake of helping a guy with a reputation loan. Proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1254441.msg13009211#msg13009211

Quotes from the thread:

Quote from: EthanB on November 18, 2015, 11:30:28 PM

Take it from someone who knows.. Lock this thread and keep your nose clean.
Trust is earned, not bought and it can't be forced.
Farming trust and reputation will only end badly, and your best bet is to re-evaluate.

Quote from: tarsua on November 18, 2015, 11:33:02 PM

Rep loans are frowned upon here, as ou can see you have been given negative trust
you need collateral and a reason to take a loan

And a few posts later, from you:

Quote from: x_Molotov on November 19, 2015, 12:02:26 AM

I have received payment for my loan.
5mBTC. Trust has been posted.

Yeah, you "didn't see that". I know. You should have known from yourself that what you were doing is wrong.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I saw the guy around the forums, and wanted to help the guy out with his career.

Or, what I think is, you wanted to make quick money (0.004BTC in that case), and sold your credibility out for it.
Something I can't approve of, and something you still seem to be ready to do.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I have returned, and I started this off, apologizing for my actions, for I wasn't aware of the general use of the reputation loans, to buy trust, and later scam, because of the already-present trust on the account.
Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359022.0

You know what the guy you were willing to trust so easily did later? He tried to run a ponzi.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I, instead of being listened to, for apologizing for my actions prior, got slammed with more hate, and one person even went to say that I was "trying to pity" older members.

That was sho, who was willing to remove his negative on you, nice bringing him into this that way.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I, then had a long chat with people on a thread, where my alt (xavTrot6) and the x_Molotov account were marked as being under one owner ( me )
proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg13869366#msg13869366 and south.

We find alts, if those are alts of red trusted members, we mark them accordingly. You were in that moment a red trusted member, hence your alt was marked.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

On the x_Molotov account, it says
Lutpin 6: -0 / +4 2016-02-14 0.00000000 Reference
Knowingly gave out a reputation loan and left positive trust after being repaid. Also fails to see his mistake and insists on having done nothing wrong.

Let's see what I wrote in the other thread about that:

Quote from: Lutpin on February 14, 2016, 07:14:57 PM

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 14, 2016, 06:36:57 PM

I have done nothing seriously wrong.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 14, 2016, 06:20:06 PM

neither of my accounts have done anything wrong

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 14, 2016, 06:20:06 PM

nothing has been done that has been wrong/immoral.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I can see multiple other feedbacks on @lutpin's account, all saying that he gives malicious feedbacks for the sake of ruining people's reputation and boosting other peoples'.

Which you can find on many other users that leave alot of feedback also. Most of those are retaliation feedbacks, given for revenge after a feedback I had left.
Like the one you left me:

"Maliciously hands out feedback, even when he is not involved."

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I do not know those people, so I cannot judge if those are correct statements, or if those are scammers, merely mad at the fact that he gave them negative feedback.

Most of them glow in red of -4 and deeper, they are sure nice guys to have a coffee with.

Quote from: xavTrot6 on February 16, 2016, 12:56:42 AM

I however, know that the feedback on my account is wrong, the Molotov feedback to be taken off, and the mention of xavTrot6 being my alt, reduced to a neutral or removed.
He wouldn't listen to me via PM, and when I confronted him on a chat on a betting site, he had me blocked, then he blocked me on PM.

I don't think so, and I after all am in the right to leave feedback as I think its correct.
I told you how we could sort this situation out via PM, you said you don't want to, then I blocked you and you followed me to crypto-games.net
What you pulled off there is on the lowest level. Let me quote the chatlog to you:

Quote

[23:04] Lutpin.
[23:04] Don't be a pussy.
[23:04] Unblock my PM.
[23:04] Learn how to talk, how to negotiate.
[23:04] You can't be a dick, then ignore comments when people confront you about them.
[23:05] <[MOD]Lutpin> could you please stop harassing me? I blocked your PM for a reason
[23:05] <[MOD]Lutpin> Joter (our admin) already warned you that this is not the right place to talk about it
[23:05] I will "harass you" until you remove the erroneous comments on my accounts.
[23:06] Or I will push and charge you with BS negative reviews in Meta.
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> but not here, drop it, that's my last warning
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> go to meta, make a thread
[23:06] Not here, not PM.
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> I don't really care about it
[23:06] <[MOD]Lutpin> but this here stops right NOW
[23:07] It does not. Until you remove the wrong comments.

You also tried to insult or insulted me on several other occasions.

To be honest, I was ready to give you a second chance, as shorena already did. I was even willing to overlook the things that had happened and move on.
But that you left trust from both your alts to the account MonetaCoin shows me, that you did in fact learn nothing and have not changed one bit.

"Acted as escrow for my BET investment program. Professional, fast, and a pleasure to work with."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=366279

How is leaving positive trust for an escrow service any way the same as giving a rep loan?

You act still like you were there when it all happened, like you have been pondering this for the 4-5 months that you gave it, like the people who were there.

You gave negative trust on top of the previous stuff there, because I was trying to clear my stuff in the Alt thread.

You acted before, and still act like 400k sat is a load of money. I was trying to help the guy. On my other account, I literally gave away .06+ BTC for no reason, besides trying to give back to the community. proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199726.0
Even if it was 400BTC, I would not scam, as I hate scammers and am legitimate in everything that I do.

How do I still seem ready to do that? I understood, apologized, and seized responsibility for my actions.
How am I still "ready to do it"?

Also, literally we were talking in PM, you said "you aren't the one commanding it all" while I was trying to have a mutual agreement, you tried to make me remove both of them first, when you were the one in fault.

I was pissed when I got to cryptogames, because you literally act so superior in everything that you do, then you ignore the person once I tried to talk to you in PM.

Honestly, it's people like you that make me want to leave this forum. So many good things, and ideas, marred by people like you and Timelord, who only show the one side that you put together, and charge with negative feedback.

I am sorry that I was indignant in cryptogames, but your behavior pissed me off.