Quote from: monsterer on February 16, 2016, 12:06:19 PM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 16, 2016, 11:59:17 AM

Re-read my prior post. You seem to not understand basic facts of computer science and thermodynamics, i.e. you can't prevent the external entity from lying.

Try to stay civil please. External inputs to a script always come in the form of a transaction. Any given transaction may depend on other transactions. As long as this dependency constraint is respected in the resulting overall ordering of transactions, I'm not sure there is a problem?

What did I write that wasn't civil and factual?

If a student was babbling nonsense in front of the entire classroom and the Professor tried to amicably ask the student to please go study a bit more because he doesn't seem to understand some basic issues, and the student continued to ramble on filling up the entire 2 hour class session with his misunderstanding, would the Professor be uncivil to finally put his foot down and demand "please stop".

I don't know why you can't comprehend what I have already written. The "transaction" which contains the input data for a script, can be set by any external entity. How do you propose to require that the bits & bytes of that input data declares its dependencies when it is impossible to force the external entity to declare where the data came from? You seem to not understand some basic facts about modularity and type systems in programming. Even if you could force the external entity to declare the full lineage of the input data (i.e. 100% dependently typed), that would require that the scripting can't be programmable, i.e. the external I/O capability would be eliminated. If you don't understand why, please go learn about the typing systems Coq and Epigram.

Please review a post about typing Modularity from Philip Wadler on Gilad Bracha's blog (hope you realize who those two guys are) and note his post immediately followed my post. My post was even deeper than Wadler's and in fact what I wrote there in 2011 is exactly what I am writing here about Ethereum. If anyone wants to identify a god in computer science, Philip Wadler would rank orders-of-magnitude higher than Szabo. Even the Lex Spoon who comments after Wadler wrote the book on Scala. Gilad only wrote the specification for Java.

You should know that Wadler invented the Expression Problem, which is precisely about how to produce statically typed extensible programmability without needing to refactor and recompile. I did a lot of research on this Expression Problem and even Stackoverflow deleted some of my earlier research.

Quote from: stoat on February 16, 2016, 12:14:41 PM

Anonymint chatting absolute horse cock again.

You are so ignorant of Computer Science that you don't even know the difference between horse shit and a textbook.

How can anyone expect me to be nice to you, when you belittle academics.

I suppose it is good you are so stupid that you don't realize how stupid you are, as it can be considered a defense mechanism against depression. Ignorant bliss.