Quote from: apriyoni on February 18, 2016, 09:53:03 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on February 17, 2016, 09:42:28 PM

You can create a prediction market on that in Augur when it goes online. Cheesy

When Augur goes on line, the price of Ethereum will rise a lot. I think that is the first big app for Ethereum.

Maybe so just because speculators are dumb or chase the price movement of the dumb herd, but fact is Augur is useless because (for as long as) Ethereum is not scalable:

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 18, 2016, 09:48:54 AM

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The point is that scriptable block chains are something that won't mature and become a real adoption market until after many years from now (perhaps decades). The wild price rise of ETH is much too premature and purely hype.

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 18, 2016, 10:07:47 AM

Quote from: sandiman on February 18, 2016, 09:13:56 AM

This redudancy + partionning paradox is extremely hard to understand for a newbie who's native language is not even english...

It would be really appreciated if someone could rephrase this paradox summing up with easy terms what is the issue and its consequencies Grin

I am years ago of your computer science knowledge and I may stay years ago of your knowledge in this field for the rest of my life since it isn't my study field.

Thank you in advance. Grin

Hopefully r0ach and others can offer their laymen's summaries.

What you need to know is that Ethereum as it is currently designed can't scale just as Bitcoin can't scale, but the level of scaling which the current Ethereum can do is much less than even Bitcoin's current limitation because verification/validation of Serpent scripts takes more resources than verification/validation of ECDSA signatures.

For both Bitcoin and Ethereum, this is not just an issue of block size limitation. The issue is that in order to scale, the mining becomes more centralized. I think you will should note that Bitcoin and all other major coins are entirely centralized already and on the precipice of failure (all of them! study my links!).

Thus Ethereum proposed Casper which is a design that attempts to use sharding (a.k.a. partitions) to improve scaling decentralized. But I explained in this thread, that can't work. To reduce electricity consumption, Ethereum also proposed PoS-like consensus-by-betting with forfeitable deposits. PoS has known failure modes that violate Nash equilibrium.

So the point of all this is that Ethereum and all the rest of the crypto coins have not yet solved the fundamental issue of decentralized consensus.

If you want to read a theoretical discussion of why, I did that too.

Okay that is enough from me. Adios.