Quote from: BitcoinHoarder on December 11, 2012, 10:18:15 PM

Quote from: Nite69 on December 11, 2012, 09:17:15 PM

Quote from: ThePok on December 09, 2012, 12:57:36 AM

Oh man ...

i did send 0.101 BTC to 1Y4wvaZXLNkSfYC4RCL9ZK4gvSYYFZovD ...
my Transaction got included in the Block, but not the Startingbet!!!

That System is bad Sad

Maybe, last bet in the block afterto the block with the initionalbet should be the winner!?!

Same thing happened to me :

http://blockchain.info/address/1Y4gqnxNJP5UK27EhKoc24AvJQtpKMEnY

This time, the initial bid *did not* have a fee, and it got included 3 blocks later!

Of course, the system tells the rules, so this is a known risk to the player. However, it makes the playing less attractive. I would also prefer a slight change to the rules; the winning bet should be searched from the block where the intial bed is *and* earlier blocks.

But of course, this is my opinion (and ThePok's ?), but the host defines the rules...

Edit: hmm.. I think I actually won, but I only won back my bet, without the initial bed. And minus fees, of course :-D

Edit2: Here is the transaction where the win came to my wallet, if you are interested:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/36240968/2487f45d1b3c369b1f493dbe35f00ab0224887f52fe6595ee409cda7a1ed997e

Argh, I just updated my bitcoind and I lost the paytxfee value, so indeed I was not attaching a fee to the initial bids. This is fixed. I have sent you the missing .10 that you should have had for the bid and I sent you an additional .25 for reporting the bug. Thanks.

I am not an advocate of ensuring the initial bid is included for three reasons: 1) It is rare. Excluding this issue where I wasn't sending a fee, the initial bid almost always get the first block. 2) The player is only losing a potential win, they get their initial bid back. So yes, you don't get the initial bid but "no harm done". 3) This game is not about winning the initial bid, it's about winning the pot. If there were more than 1 player on the pot then 99% of the payout will come from the bidding.

Ok, that sounds fair enought. The game is ok, as long the players know all the rules and agrees them by participating the game :-)

You just need more players. I'v been thinking.. just an idea; maybe the pool operators sees enought benefit with increased fees if they promote your game? Paying fees seems to increase the possibility of win so in the end pool operators will get moreprofit if this game became more popular? So it would not harm them, if they promote the game on their sites?