Quote from: greyhawk on December 12, 2012, 02:06:30 PM

I wonder where the foul mouthed BFL spokesdude has gone too. The silence is deafening. Hello? If you miss your daily quota of personal attacks and trolling accusations, this is going to reflect badly in your performance review under the "productivity" section. Please think of the children and save Christmas.

He's busy doing math.

Quote from: Syke on December 12, 2012, 03:45:05 PM

BFL sure likes to blame the fab since being unknown they can't come here and defend themselves.

The conversation probably went like this:

BFL: We want to do a fully custom ASIC.
Fab: Have you ever done ASICs before?
BFL: Sure, we programmed FPGAs. That's the same thing, right?
Fab: Uh, no. Very different.
BFL: Well, how long will it take?
Fab: Someone with experience can do it in 6 months, but since this is your first attempt, expect 1-2 years.
BFL: Ok, great, thanks.

BFL to public: We'll have a finished product in 6 months, guaranteed! The fab said so.

Sounds possible, if we accept they actually talked to a fab.

Quote from: bitcoindaddy on December 12, 2012, 04:01:14 PM

Just confirmed by Josh:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html#post7983

If they didn't have such a history of saying whatever seems to work at the time that might carry a lot more water. They could have said this at any point prior to it becoming a critical save.

Quote from: Inaba on December 12, 2012, 04:19:40 PM

I respond to posts with verifiable information.

Cute.

Quote from: Fjordbit on December 12, 2012, 04:39:58 PM

BFL has shown themselves to be dishonest through ommission about their delivery dates, allowing customers to continue to believe that chips would be arriving in late November when they knew that they were making clock buffer adjustments that would delay at least until mid-December..

They had no idea they were making such adjustments until it became necessary for it to be announced at which point it was announced. Exactly like they have no idea currently as to location of their production facility. It will become known once circumstances force the bs team to say something definite on that topic. And then it'll move.

Quote from: Fjordbit on December 12, 2012, 04:39:58 PM

The people got paid as according to their voluntary agreements, and they actually got paid much better than if they participated in the government sanctioned lottery.

Maybe I've missed something but afaik the ~19 million is still unreturned.