Quote from: elux on December 14, 2012, 04:36:56 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on December 14, 2012, 04:21:27 PM

Syke, that's because, at the time, they WERE close to shipping.
Until the chips came in wrong, and they had to redo them,
and now they're stuck waiting on the foundry to make the changes.

You're completely pulling this out of your ass, am I right? Ten bucks says I'm right.

What does "the chips came in wrong" even mean?

You believe they had actual chips, but were "unsatisfied with performance" and trashed them?

That was Nasser's late November spin on the situation IIRC.

Then the latest story: "The fucking foundry, man... Made our chips all wrong so that we have to redesign them."

And let's not forget, they were "close to shipping" in October.

Lol, that picture makes me laugh every time I see it.

I am simply speculating here, yes. Based on everything I have read coming from BFL over the past months, I believe they received chips in late October or early November (shortly before they posted the pictures with the chips attached to them), and they didn't work properly (or performed so sub-par as to require a revision). They're doing the clock buffer revision (and who knows what else they are revising and not admitting to), and now waiting on the fab for the new chips.

I really wish they would be more open about their happenings, but it is what it is. I could be completely wrong, this is just my guessing based on what I have read between the lines in their statements. I truly do not believe they have intentionally misled, only that they have made estimates that turned out to be wrong. They were fully intending to ship in late October, provided everything went right.

Quote from: Syke on December 14, 2012, 04:50:58 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on December 14, 2012, 04:21:27 PM

Syke, that's because, at the time, they WERE close to shipping. Until the chips came in wrong, and they had to redo them, and now they're stuck waiting on the foundry to make the changes.

Without working chips, they were never close to shipping.

They sure thought they were though, and every post prior to late October indicates their confidence in this fact. Once they realized their first batch of chips were bad, they then revised to the date they thought their foundary would be able to ship out a new batch. And that part keeps taking longer and longer.