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Quote from: BADecker on February 26, 2016, 09:16:01 AM

Nope. BADecker isn't a guru on cause and effect. BADecker simply knows that Newton's 3rd Law substantiates cause and effect in everything.

God exists, and the science He created proves it.

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Nope BSEcker can't even look at a definition like entropy, completely misunderstand the meaning of those very precise words and use the laws (that apply only to the CORRECT definition) like it was normal.

It's like if I says 2+2=4 we all agree. Well now if I say that 2 is the same as 3, it means that 3+2=4. Why can't you see the truth? 3+2=4 it's obvious you just refuse it!

He does actually attempt to prove that 1 + 1 != 2 earlier on in this thread. Entertaining in it's way, and I'm sure he'll pull out the old "maths is not perfect" chestnut again if you ask him nicely.

Math is not perfect? xD
Didn't read that! I hope he'll go again with such an argument!!!

Math is perfect. However, it is virtual. Virtual doesn't fit reality perfectly. The reason that math works for the average person is, the person automatically applies virtual math to reality in ways that make up for the differences between the two. But when you get into complex math, the person can't connect the complex virtual with reality as easily. Math is gradually shown in complex math that it doesn't apply to reality.

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"Math is gradually shown in complex math that it doesn't apply to reality."

Wrong. Totally wrong. It appears more clearly every time you post that you never studied science. Every mathematician will explain you how and why math applies to reality. Whatever the level of complexity.

Mathematicians love math. It is their baby. You have to expect that mathematicians want their baby to exist in reality. But, math is all virtual, no matter what anyone says. Math is only a language that mankind uses to relate to the universe in certain ways.

A black hole can't exist according to the math of it. Why not? At the core of a black hole there exists a point that is supposed to contain an extreme amount of material, which causes an extreme amount of gravity. Among the definitions of "point" are:
1. something that has position but not extension, as the intersection of two lines.
2. a place of which the position alone is considered; spot:
3. In geometry, a location having no dimension no length, height, or width and identified by at least one coordinate.

Since a point has no dimension, it is nothing. There is no material in nothing. With no material, there can be no gravity. A black hole is a fictional "thing" that is abstractly presented in the minds of mathematicians, but does not exist in reality.

The anomaly in space that we call a black hole is something entirely different than the mathematical black hole of the cosmologists and the mathematicians.

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