Quote from: Moloch on March 01, 2016, 03:50:35 AM

Quote from: CoinCube on March 01, 2016, 02:40:35 AM

Atheism as opposed to agnosticism is a statement of certainty. True belief in an unproven assertion is an act of faith. I will leave it to the reader to decide if this specific act of faith constitutes a religion.

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You can be an Agnostic Atheist or a Gnostic Atheist
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How about you define your religion, and let Atheist define our non-religion in a way that makes sense to those of us who aren't delusional?
Thanks

Moloch you are of course correct that my quoted statement above on certainty would only apply to Gnostic Atheist or "Strong Atheism"

Perhaps we should define some terms. Let's look at wikipedia and the atheism wiki.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

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Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and agnostic because they claim that the existence of a deity is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/Atheist_vs_Agnostic

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Some atheists actively believe that no god exists while others hold that neither claim is sufficiently supported to justify acceptance. These positions are often labeled strong atheism and weak atheism, respectively. Additionally, some individuals confuse the weak atheism position with agnosticism. There isn't much difference between weak atheists and agnostics. Agnostics are more likely to feel positive about the possibility that God or a higher power might exist. Weak atheists are more likely to believe that God is improbable and weak atheists focus on living life as if there certainly were no God. Weak atheists are likely to argue that if god/gods exist we can't know what they want from us so we might as well live our lives taking only this world into account.

It's is not my intent to belittle or insult atheists. Indeed for the last 18+ years from my youth when I rejected theism until very recently (about a month ago) I myself would have fallen into the category of agnostic atheists or weak atheism. I recognized the need for a replacement moral code and had adopted Utilitarianism which sounds great in theory but I can tell you from experience its not very functional. My own view is that atheist are by and large highly articulate, responsible and intelligent people who have followed logic into a blind alley. I believe I have demonstrated that logic can also take a different path.

Theism does not require the abandonment of logic and reason. Intellect does not demand you wall yourself off from faith. The choice of belief is not of intellect but of character.