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Door locks are to keep honest people honest. They do nothing to deter dishonest people.

Yes they do. Nice try, though.

Uh... no they don't. Can you tell me how your puny little door lock will stop my foot? The door frame to your house is made of wood... oh what's that? You have a metal door frame and a reinforced slide on the door? That doesn't stop a 40lb door ram (there's a reason police use it to bust down doors). But seriously, why bother with a door when there's 1/8" of glass keeping people out of a structure? Any handy rock will take care of that problem.

Subtly you say? The lock picking link above is good... a credit card works fine unless you have a deadbolt on, then just resort to lock picking.

I'm going to make a guess here: You think that having more lights (streetlights, porch light, etc...) in your neighborhood is a good thing and makes your neighborhood safer, too, right?

Door locks do nothing but keep honest people honest.

You're like myrkul. He and I already had this conversation. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's the norm. And regarding credit cards - did you learn that from TV shows? LOL, you're an idiot.

Not the norm? Of course it is... most people are honest. Dishonest people are not the "norm" if you define the "norm" as a majority of people. Those are the people we are talking about, and those are the ones that door locks don't stop. Do you think people in less affluent neighborhoods have 5 or 6 door locks for decoration, or is it to keep people out, because door locks don't stop people? Do you think those same people have bars on their window because the door locks work? No, because the window is a weak point and dishonest people will not be deterred by 1/8" of glass.

Most door locks in suburbia America (not deadbolts) can be defeated with a credit card. You can choose to disbelieve that, but even spending 2 minutes jimmying your front door with a credit card will tell you how incredibly deluded you appear to be. Got to get in fast without leaving a trace of evidence?

http://www.lockpickshop.com/LOCKAID.html $50 bucks, you'll never know someone picked your lock, and it only took a few seconds.

Got a few more bucks and don't want to go through the trouble of that pesky "squeeze and release" motion a few times? http://www.lockpickshop.com/E500XT.html only $169.

95% of locks are a joke, especially on suburban households. The tolerances on the tumblers in your locks on your front door (deadbolt included) are so incredibly sloppy that I could manually pick them in under a minute. The more expensive locks take longer, but using a $169 tool will defeat even the best quality single sided tumbler lock in minutes to seconds.

It's called security theater, Google it. I bet you think the TSA is keeping you safe, too, right?