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Quote from: Laosai on March 03, 2016, 09:04:19 AM

Ok so the fact that those 3 persons stole the business through corruption and manipulation is no problem?

That is problem, but most businesses now do contracts with the state, and that is how their corruption exists.

1)Politician gets in office
2)His friend opens up a business
3)Politician gives contracts to his friend from public money
4)They split the profits

This is what happens everywhere in the world, and these businesses would close down immediately once they dont get more funding.

How to stop politicians from becoming corrupt? You cant. You should just not feed them.

The less public money they have, the less they can steal, as simple as that.

That would be totally erased by direct democracy. There would no longer be any kind of corruption. And that's why I agree with you socialism or even government can't be good for the people without direct democracy.

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Quote from: Laosai on March 03, 2016, 08:44:59 AM

Again you're confusing socialism with communism... But I suppose it was predictable... Yeah it's exactly what would happen... Government burocrats everywhere... Cause the state couldn't at all just own it and regulate it while letting it be managed by competent people exactly like a normal company? If the state owns it it can only finish with red everywhere and burocrats!

Socialism will become communism:

"The goal of socialism is communism." -- Vladimir Lenin ☭☭

I know more about leftist ideas than you do, that is why I oppose it.

Oh because if Lenine said it it must be true? Funny a non communist thinks something like this ^^

Lenine is 70 years old philosophy. We saw. We learnt. We know now that communism brings nothing. We can restrain socialism to... Well socialism.

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Quote from: Laosai on March 03, 2016, 08:44:59 AM

Perfect if you're ok with the wealth concentration and the rising poverty of your country then do nothing!

No I am not, and I do my best to help.

I support bitcoin, which would be the moral way of 'redistributing' wealth, by not being exposed to inflation.

Inflation is the biggest wealth redistributor and its stealing from your pocket and giving it to banks.

I disagree with this but at least we both agree on the necessity to simply destroy banks ^^

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Quote from: Laosai on March 03, 2016, 09:06:03 AM

Dumb as hell. Dumbest idea I ever heard.

What you're saying is actually not only a nonsense but also incredibly dangerous.

Imagine we stop any kind of regulation tomorrow. You know what would happen?
I'll tell you: Big companies would CRASH DOWN the smaller ones. Nothing else.

Yes unfortunately you are right here, the regulations are so embedded in the system that its hard to remove them.

But it can still be removed slowly, and phased out into market self-regulation.

It cannot happen over night, but over a few years its doable.

It's not really regulation. Simply power of an elite over the people.
But anyway it's too late. Leaving the market alone would simply crush us all. It would be a complete suicide, it would never "slowly remove it". Your idea was a good one 100 years ago, and maybe we should have done it. But now it's too late.