Lauda

Quote from: Lauda on March 03, 2016, 06:54:15 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on March 03, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

I think SegWit is a good idea. It will have an effect and will bring bitcoin forward even in the future. It will cut down the space needed for transactions for a certain amount. Regardless of the amount of transactions and current blocksize. So even with 50MB blocks, Segwit might still be able to nearly double the amount. This is a good thing.

There are other benefits that come along with Segwit as well. It is not just about the transaction capacity.

Can you elaborate? Do you mean less space needed for the same amount of transactions or something directly depending?

Don't say LN, I don't see that as a benefit.

Quote from: Lauda on March 03, 2016, 06:54:15 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on March 03, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

Though I doubt that Segwit will be able to solve the situation fast enough. You know yourself that even when Segwit gets implemented today, the effect would only slowly rise to an effect bringing down the situation. And in the meanwhile the situation can always grow higher than our heads.

Actually this is a good thing. Even if we had a 2 MB block size limit today there is no guarantee that the miners would not impose limits of their own. The sudden bump is not needed. Depending on how much transaction capacity is needed, people are going to adopt clients that already support Segwit. If they don't do so, they are technically saying that they don't need/want more TPS.

Why should the miners impose limits or softlimits again? I don't see a reason for them for doing so. If you speak about propagation time and orphaned blocks athen there already are solutions to this with Matt's? network. That network even beats zero transaction blocks at the moment.

Well, your last sentence is of somewhat psychological sneaky. Surely not everyone wants segwit. There are enough fears against it. It doesn't mean that they don't want more TPS. They might want it another way and that is completely legit.

Cuidler

Quote from: Cuidler on March 03, 2016, 09:09:53 PM

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macbook-air Bitcoin Miner - F2Pool

In HK, Alex asked me to respect his time by agree the consensus asap. Also someone else told me he had bought long position just before the roundtable, if we did not agree, he would lose huge financially. If it was not these two, I would probably have escaped away that night.

Wow, that's pretty sneaky. So to understand it correctly, the consensus is agreeing to the core devs steps of segwit-lightning network?

Well, as escrow I hear often sentences like "You waste mine and SebastianJu's time. Send the funds asap or he will give you red trust.". Sentences like that are written often by scammers to push time and to make people less able to check out the goods. Or if someone found a problem with the goods the seller might want to force him to pay that way.

If such sentences really are used in that topic then it has a bad sound.